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August 15, 2013 at 5:19 pm #205112PriceofMagicParticipant
Henry hates magic at the moment.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 15, 2013 at 5:51 pm #205115kfchimeraParticipantI think he hates magic the same way that Neal does–it is not magic itself, but the price of it, the harm of the selfish or cruel use of magic, yet both have enough hope to see there is good magic in the world. When August “died” Henry shouted for PDF…er, BF. He was not anti-magic then, or when it came time for his mom to deactivate the bomb. Neal looks fascinated not repulsed when Emma casts spells, and he volunteers to sail the magical Jolly Roger.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 15, 2013 at 6:14 pm #205120obisgirlParticipantI think he hates magic the same way that Neal does–it is not magic itself, but the price of it, the harm of the selfish or cruel use of magic, yet both have enough hope to see there is good magic in the world.
I agree.
August 15, 2013 at 6:44 pm #205126RumplesGirlKeymasterI think he hates magic the same way that Neal does–it is not magic itself, but the price of it, the harm of the selfish or cruel use of magic, yet both have enough hope to see there is good magic in the world. When August “died” Henry shouted for PDF…er, BF. He was not anti-magic then, or when it came time for his mom to deactivate the bomb. Neal looks fascinated not repulsed when Emma casts spells, and he volunteers to sail the magical Jolly Roger.
I agree with all of this! This was well said.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2013 at 7:42 pm #205129HappyEndingsSpectatorI think he hates magic the same way that Neal does–it is not magic itself, but the price of it, the harm of the selfish or cruel use of magic, yet both have enough hope to see there is good magic in the world. When August “died” Henry shouted for PDF…er, BF. He was not anti-magic then, or when it came time for his mom to deactivate the bomb. Neal looks fascinated not repulsed when Emma casts spells, and he volunteers to sail the magical Jolly Roger.
At this point we do not know about Henry, and I see nothing to rule out that he has powerful magic, or to justify thinking he does. The writers leave a lot of doors to open with future plots. Regina seemed to think she could teach Henry magic, didn’t she?
Snow also watched Cora and learned how to blow that ink spell to open the cell door, Cora and Regina learn but I still say Henry wasn’t born naturally like Emma was you can be taught but that isn’t the same as having it look at Rumble he can’t do magic without having the power of the dagger do you think he can do magic if he wasn’t the dark one?
August 15, 2013 at 8:01 pm #205131RumplesGirlKeymasterThere is a definite difference between learning magic and being born with a natural gift, so to speak. I agree with you 100%. But here’s the thing: none of the people who can do magic were born with it–not Rumple, not Cora, not Regina. All three of those people had to either be taught or, in Rumple’s case, were cursed. Just EMMA is naturally magical. Emma is living magic; her entire being is magic. And that I think may be the biggest piece of evidence (no matter how small that evidence is) that Henry might have some natural magic in him. It may be only a really small spark and I agree 1000000% that he needs to learn, but heck, so does Emma.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 15, 2013 at 9:12 pm #205138obisgirlParticipantI get it.
August 15, 2013 at 10:18 pm #205140PheeParticipantobisgirl, did you track down a copy of the panel yet? I’ve got it downloaded as an mp4 so should be able to upload it somewhere like that Videobam site if anyone needs it.
Not only is she the product of true love, but Emma is true love personified. Emma isn’t just magical; she IS magic in human form. When Rumple took the hairs from her parents to make a true love potion, he put a drop of that potion on the scroll on which the Dark Curse was written. It was his “safety-valve” so that Emma would be the Savior. The same DNA which Rumple used to create the true love potion to bring magic to SB is Emma’s very essence. She is the the most powerful form of magic.
THIS!
But here’s the thing: none of the people who can do magic were born with it–not Rumple, not Cora, not Regina. All three of those people had to either be taught or, in Rumple’s case, were cursed. Just EMMA is naturally magical. Emma is living magic; her entire being is magic. And that I think may be the biggest piece of evidence (no matter how small that evidence is) that Henry might have some natural magic in him.
Yes! Emma’s very presence in SB started things changing. The powerlines sparked when she first got out of the Bug, the clock ticked when she stayed, the ground shook when she put on the Sheriff’s badge, when Graham kissed her, he remembered, when she touched Regina’s arm, the hat worked. She had no idea she was even doing anything, but she was affecting change around her because she’s a magical being. She had no idea that she was doing anything magical when she stepped in front of Cora, she just thought she was gonna die. But Cora, the heart stealing pro, couldn’t take Emma’s magical heart, and Cora was shocked and confused by it. Even Cora had never seen magic like that, and that woman knew magic. We’ve seen Rumple tell Regina that it takes ages just to learn how to transform one’s appearance, even just to be able to change your hair colour. But Emma, who had no magical training, or even any idea that she actually had magic, was able to do that. Magic isn’t just something she does, it’s what she is. And what makes someone up genetically, they pass onto their children, so I’d be more surprised if Henry didn’t have some magic in him.
August 15, 2013 at 10:29 pm #205142HappyEndingsSpectatorAnd what makes someone up genetically, they pass onto their children, so I’d be more surprised if Henry didn’t have some magic in him.
That isn’t necessary true a lot of stuff doesn’t pass through from parents to kids. Look at Snow she can talk with birds but Emma can’t so I still say no magic is in Henry.
August 15, 2013 at 10:36 pm #205145kfchimeraParticipantAh, but it is magic, and it does not have to follow the rules of science and genetics. Even if it does, some things are caused by environment, not genetics, particularly the in utero environment, can have a huge impact. We do not know if say there was some True Love interacting with the impervious spell that Rumpel put on Snow that caused Emma to be what she became.
From a writing and story standpoint, making Henry the overpowered kid hero trope could be very cheesy.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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