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Kill the Black Fairy

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Six › 6×15 “A Wondrous Place” › Kill the Black Fairy

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  • April 2, 2017 at 9:03 pm #335446
    RumplesGirl
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    Gideon wants Emma’s help to kill the Black Fairy. Does this mean he no longer wants to kill the Savior? Will Emma help him–or better yet, should she help him?

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    April 2, 2017 at 9:31 pm #335453
    AKA
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    I think he wants to become a hero, and maybe he is somewhat listening to good old dad when he said  if Gideon kills Emma he will never become the hero he wants to be.  I would hope that Emma would help him she is supposed to be the savior.  The problem is, that Emma is a “hero” on this show and the heroes tend to think in black and white.  They see Gideon as a villain so won’t trust him and unless the black fairy becomes a problem for Storybrooke Emma may say not my problem. I hope not though.  I think it would be great if everyone teamed up against the black fairy if she is as bad as we think she is.

    April 3, 2017 at 5:28 am #335489
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    If Gideon wants Emma’s help to take down the Black Fairy, why did he send Hook away first? Was there a point to that at all?

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    April 3, 2017 at 8:50 am #335491
    AKA
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    If Gideon wants Emma’s help to take down the Black Fairy, why did he send Hook away first? Was there a point to that at all?

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    To get her to cry? Maybe he needs her tears for some odd reason?

    April 3, 2017 at 9:02 am #335493
    TheWatcher
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    If Gideon wants Emma’s help to take down the Black Fairy, why did he send Hook away first? Was there a point to that at all?

    \ To get her to cry? Maybe he needs her tears for some odd reason?

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    Makes sense.

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    April 3, 2017 at 10:31 am #335496
    thedarkonedearie
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    He needed her tears to keep Hook away from her as leverage to get her to do what he wants.  To me, it makes sense.  However, I don’t like that we got another maguffin in Savior tears and I don’t like that Gideon has now somehow switched opinions on this and now wants Emma to help him kill Black Fairy.  When did he realize this?  We needed to see this.  Did Rumple help him realize this?  What about all that magic stealing from the sword via Blue Fairy?  All the stuff with Rumple not wanting Gideon to do anything bad and dark so he would do it for him?  So now, Gideon is being good trying to take out a bad person?

    April 3, 2017 at 3:13 pm #335520
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    We needed to see this

    Yes, this. That’s a pretty big change from how he previously felt and that kind of character turn *must* be shown. So either 1) we’ll never see it OR 2) Gideon is faking in wanting Emma’s help

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    April 3, 2017 at 3:43 pm #335528
    ry4christ
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    He needed her tears to keep Hook away from her as leverage to get her to do what he wants. To me, it makes sense. However, I don’t like that we got another maguffin in Savior tears and I don’t like that Gideon has now somehow switched opinions on this and now wants Emma to help him kill Black Fairy. When did he realize this? We needed to see this. Did Rumple help him realize this? What about all that magic stealing from the sword via Blue Fairy? All the stuff with Rumple not wanting Gideon to do anything bad and dark so he would do it for him? So now, Gideon is being good trying to take out a bad person?

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    I didn’t quite understand the “Savior’s Tears” part. Emma’s listening to Hook on the “shell phone” and Gideon, (as Aesop) says: “He can’t hear you. Not while I hold onto the tears of the Savior.” So Savior tears block “shell phone” reception. Random, but okay. Then Gideon says, “So long as I have this (holds up tears in bag) I can ensure there will be no portals between you and the man you love.” Portals as in communication via “shell phone,” or portals in general. If the latter, how does THAT work?

    April 3, 2017 at 3:47 pm #335529
    thedarkonedearie
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    I didn’t quite understand the “Savior’s Tears” part. Emma’s listening to Hook on the “shell phone” and Gideon, (as Aesop) says: “He can’t hear you. Not while I hold onto the tears of the Savior.” So Savior tears block “shell phone” reception. Random, but okay. Then Gideon says, “So long as I have this (holds up tears in bag) I can ensure there will be no portals between you and the man you love.” Portals as in communication via “shell phone,” or portals in general. If the latter, how does THAT work?

    I took it to mean that once you have the Savior’s tears, no one can cross realms to get to them.  But it’s super ambiguous.

    April 3, 2017 at 3:54 pm #335530
    ry4christ
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    ry4christ wrote:

    I didn’t quite understand the “Savior’s Tears” part. Emma’s listening to Hook on the “shell phone” and Gideon, (as Aesop) says: “He can’t hear you. Not while I hold onto the tears of the Savior.” So Savior tears block “shell phone” reception. Random, but okay. Then Gideon says, “So long as I have this (holds up tears in bag) I can ensure there will be no portals between you and the man you love.” Portals as in communication via “shell phone,” or portals in general. If the latter, how does THAT work?

    I took it to mean that once you have the Savior’s tears, no one can cross realms to get to them. But it’s super ambiguous.

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    That could be it. It was weird how Emma didn’t even question him to see how and why he had leverage over her with tears. He could’ve completely made that up.

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