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So all along since “The Stable Boy”, we assumed Regina’s ruthlessness was because of Cora. Now that we met her grandfather, King Xavier, I think it runs in her blood on both sides!
How did Xavier know about Rumpel and Cora’s affair? How did Xavier manage to convince Cora not to take his heart? She could have taken both his and hers. Why leave him alive?
Is there more to him and this story?[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Xavier could have known that the only person in the realm that can spin straw into gold was Rumpelstiltskin (good chance he already asked Rumpel) so she had to have learned it from him.
And to Cora, Xavier was worth more alive then dead. 5th in line for the throne, remember? You can avoid an awefull lot of bloodshed if you can use the current King as puppet. All she had to do now was declare Henry heir to the throne.
Somehow I think Cora dislikes bloodshed and that is why she takes out hearts. It keeps people alive but controlled, which she prefers. As long as she does not kill them she can tell herself she’s not wicked. And the few she does kill,well they deserved it (<- How I think she reasons, not how I think)Agree that how’s Cora rationalises her behaviour. Her “I don’t like what that enchanted box was saying. I’m not wicked” was so defensive – she has to believe that she isn’t the wicked witch, or her entire moral construct to her life will fall over.
A bit like Regina’s “I was always the Queen, it was you who added Evil to it” – like her mother, she can’t see that she’s earned the title of wicked witch all on her own!
@SpinningGold wrote:
Xavier could have known that the only person in the realm that can spin straw into gold was Rumpelstiltskin (good chance he already asked Rumpel) so she had to have learned it from him.
And to Cora, Xavier was worth more alive then dead. 5th in line for the throne, remember? You can avoid an awefull lot of bloodshed if you can use the current King as puppet. All she had to do now was declare Henry heir to the throne.
Somehow I think Cora dislikes bloodshed and that is why she takes out hearts. It keeps people alive but controlled, which she prefers. As long as she does not kill them she can tell herself she’s not wicked. And the few she does kill,well they deserved it (<- How I think she reasons, not how I think)Are you seriously saying Cora doesn’t like killing people? Where have you been, have you not watched this season at all? (jokes..but still) I mean, she massacred the whole refugee island back in FTL (pretty sure they were Zombies when she revived them in 2×08). Let’s not forget what she did to Johanna last episode.
Zombies = not dead. Johanna, friend of Eva, deserved it…. I forgot to mention,(did in the other thread) I think she is completely psycho, so normal reasoning does not come into it.
I mean : “I’m not wicked”, please.
Just saying… she does horrible things and then justifies them. She is terrific at that.It doesn’t really surprise me that Xavier knew about Cora’s little visitor, because he probably makes it his business to know everything that goes on in his castle.
What I find interesting is that he obviously ended up knowing everything about Cora and her powers, because he would have seen her rip her own heart out, right? That’s when she did it, when she was in there with him? And he was perfectly happy to sign his son’s life away by letting him marry her, even though he knew exactly what type of person she was. Poor Henry really was screwed over.
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And he was perfectly happy to sign his son’s life away by letting him marry her, even though he knew exactly what type of person she was. Poor Henry really was screwed over.
Xavier seemed to be able to distance himself from his feelings while still having (far as we know!) his heart. If you are going to rule, you cannot be too soft-hearted as there are tough choices you have to make. Yet if you are too heartless, you will become a monster and abuse your power and lose sight of how to use your power properly. I don’t think Xavier had the right balance, but I get the feeling Henry Sr. was probably in the “not strategic enough” category in his father’s opinion. Xavier probably thought Cora would help his son to have more spine. He probably just didn’t realize how dangerous she was, perhaps because he was too arrogant to believe a miller’s daughter could be smarter, stronger and more ruthless than him.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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