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August 26, 2014 at 9:43 pm #280982lisasParticipant
Oh please, this is a fantasy show. Dead is never dead unless there’s a body or burial. I for one am glad to see Kristen back and not because of Maleficent. Since they left Aurora in SB in S3, and True Blood was ending I had an inkling that this was coming (that darned black fairy kept popping up). I dont recall A & E saying that Mal was dead, but that Regina was keeping her alive in another form.
In the Official Podcast for 220 they said she was dead
[adrotate group="5"]August 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm #280984TheWatcherParticipantAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I KNEW IT! I KNEW SHE’D BE BACK 😀 Kristin Van Stratwn is the reason I started watching OUAT!! I LOVE HER AS PAM AND I LOVE HER AA MALEFICENT AND NOW MY DAY IS JUST COMPLETE.
Although yes, I agree with everything stated.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICAugust 26, 2014 at 10:15 pm #280989MatthewPaulModeratorA&E probably always wanted to bring Maleficent back, movie or not. She is the most popular of the Disney villains, and she was only given limited screentime previously because Kristin was tied up with True Blood. Of course the movie was likely an extra incentive to do so, but let’s face it, it probably still would have happened. Whether it will strictly be flashbacks, or if there’s some “magical handwaving” to bring her back in present day, remains to be seen. Either way, I always wanted to see her story on the show fleshed out more, especially in regards to Aurora and Philip. I mean Aurora and Maleficent have yet to share a single scene. Another thing is if Season 4B’s major story arc is Sleeping Beauty centric, that’s further bringing the show back to its fairy tale roots.
August 26, 2014 at 11:21 pm #281000Epona_610ParticipantI for one am glad to see Kristen back and not because of Maleficent. Since they left Aurora in SB in S3, and True Blood was ending I had an inkling that this was coming (that darned black fairy kept popping up).
A&E probably always wanted to bring Maleficent back, movie or not. She is the most popular of the Disney villains, and she was only given limited screentime previously because Kristin was tied up with True Blood. Of course the movie was likely an extra incentive to do so, but let’s face it, it probably still would have happened. Whether it will strictly be flashbacks, or if there’s some “magical handwaving” to bring her back in present day, remains to be seen. Either way, I always wanted to see her story on the show fleshed out more, especially in regards to Aurora and Philip. I mean Aurora and Maleficent have yet to share a single scene. Another thing is if Season 4B’s major story arc is Sleeping Beauty centric, that’s further bringing the show back to its fairy tale roots.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I KNEW IT! I KNEW SHE’D BE BACK Kristin Van Stratwn is the reason I started watching OUAT!! I LOVE HER AS PAM AND I LOVE HER AA MALEFICENT AND NOW MY DAY IS JUST COMPLETE.
Yes, yes, and yes! I too imagine they were hoping to tell this story at some point, movie or no movie. I’m sure they’ll come up with something to get her back to life in the present day if she’s supposed to be the main villain in 4B. If she is indeed the infamous Black Fairy, then at least I think it’ll be more believable than Charming coming back with half of Snow’s heart, haha.
I love Kristen Bauer, and actually I love Sarah Bolger too–I’d love to see more of both of them. Maybe we can finally find out stuff like what Aurora meant when she referred to Maleficent having gone after her mother first and how Aurora and Mulan got Phillip back. Actually I read Perrault’s version recently, and “Aurore” really was the daughter of the original sleeping beauty and her prince (who didn’t have names IIRC). (Then the prince’s part-ogre mother tried to eat both the children and the princess but the cook substituted various animals and it all worked out in the end.)
Also, Hook recognized her somehow when Regina sent him to to distract her while she got the failsafe. And speaking of, there’s also whatever went down between her and Regina before what we saw in 102. (Just as long as she’s not Cora’s REAL firstborn that she had as a teenager or something!) And Will got in some trouble with her when he stole–was it a mirror?–from her in a flashback on an episode of OUAT in Wonderland.
August 26, 2014 at 11:30 pm #281002WickedRegalParticipantI ALWAYS KNEW SHE’D BE BACK! She was just recovering under the time clock…she’s coming back!!!
THE FRENEMY IS BACK!!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
August 27, 2014 at 12:05 am #281005CorbinParticipantSo, this season is essentially becoming, “The Season In Which All Our Original Guest Stars Are Coming Back Because Their Shows Either Ended Or Were Cancelled.”
Personally, I’m wondering how they’re going to incorporate her into the mythology again. If they decide to reintroduce her as a completely new character (not unprecedented for them) and make her the Big Bad for S4, I’m going to be pretty angry. She was introduced and is established. Leave her alone.
However, if they decide to actually give her a substantial story, I will be pleased. I’m always a fan of someone with the title, “Mistress of All Evil.”
But, to conclude, I saw this coming a mile away. Matthew Fox hasn’t been in much lately since LOST ended. Maybe he’ll be a new outsider or something?
Keeper of Thor’s Hammer, Will Scarlet’s Genie Bottle, Emma’s Gun, Emma and Henry’s Moment at the Castle, Cora, and the infamous Family Tree!
August 27, 2014 at 1:08 am #281006TheWatcherParticipantI dont think she is going to be the villain of the second half. I’m still betting on Jafar. She will either be working with him to get revenge on Regina or helping the main cast do whatever. Either way, I think the fact they revealed this way early is very suspicious. And I dont think Mal will still evil even if she is the villain.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICAugust 27, 2014 at 8:06 am #281015obisgirlParticipantI started to think last night in what context we might see Maleficent. You know, we have yet to see the original sleeping beauty Fairytale.
I think we’ll get flashbacks to that and I would not be surprised if Adam and Eddy made it into some sort of love triangle.
How would that relate to the present? Well, we already have a love triangle with outlaw Queen. Regina might try to use a sleeping curse on Marian or a bigger twist on herself.
Regina used the apple on Emma in season one but there is a spinning wheel in Rumple’s shop.
See where I’m going with this?
August 27, 2014 at 8:58 am #281019TheWatcherParticipantI think we’ll get flashbacks to that and I would not be surprised if Adam and Eddy made it into some sort of love triangle.
In the name of all that is good and righteous, I hope they dont. I hope after the Regina, Robin thing they retire the usage of love triangles for the duration of the series. I dont want Mal in some love story, but knowing them it will probably happen though 🙁
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICAugust 27, 2014 at 9:44 am #281023SirMedrautParticipantIt’d be a tad repetitive (though, I guess, not past our writers) to have another back-half with an evil sorceress going after a baby, but with Aurora pregnant and in SB I’ve been thinking Maleficent as a possibility for 4B or 5A a lot lately. She’s failed with Aurora’s mother and Aurora herself, but you know what they say, third time’s the charm and all that, right? Plus I’m sure she’s probably got a bone or two to pick with Regina for trapping her in Storybrooke and not even giving her the dignity of being allowed to die in peace. I admit, like Watcher, I wanted Jafar and I think it’s majorly suspicious that they’ve announced 4B’s potential villain before 4×01 has even aired, but *someone* has to rub his bottle in the first place. While I think it’d be better to give him to a nonmagical villain like Cruella, the havoc a Jafar and Maleficent team up could cause does tickle my fancy.
And I still don’t want her to be the Black Fairy because I want them to save that for Morgana, but I will be more than accepting if it turns out to be her anyways. She just seems to have a surprising amount of power in the two times we saw her use them for an exiled, wand-stripped fairy. When Tink gets banished, she’s mundane – if this Black Fairy who did “terrible, terrible things” was left with the capability to transform into a dragon and channel magic through a staff after having her deus ex machina wand taken away, that’s majorly irresponsible on Blue’s part.
Keeper of Zelena's witch hat and the Black Fairy's wand.
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