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[laurieanne]

I agree with both of you – very well said! I am new to the forums but think it is so much fun, because everyone has a slightly different and unique take on the show. I am a fan of the show – not only of one character. Everyone is there to “serve the story” (well said!) and the only ones who get to decide how that happens are Kitsis and Horowitz! Hook definitely got the best of Rumple and Belle just a few episodes ago, when he shot her….so he has had his moments, just not every week. I think one of the strengths of this show is the ensemble – and there are not enough minutes to let everyone have their “turn” every week.

[jessieparadoxes of people]

I know right!!!!!!!!A lot of people on the Facebook page are complaining about the “filler” episodes like “Tiny.” 😯 😡 🙄 Like you said every character serves his purpose and furthermore,every little bit about each of their back stories is in some way connected to all of his present actions.Then they’re all upset about K&H putting off a particular story for a bit while they clear up some stuff elsewhere in the realm(i.e.”Child of the Moon”).

and there are not enough minutes to let everyone have their turn”every week

EXACTLY!!!!!!!And they need to find an effective arrangement in which to tell the story.They are doing a fantabulous job of it too!!!!!!And it’s not like the “good stuff” is put off for unimportant details either!!!!As for Hook,I think he is brilliantly portrayed and the actor makes me love to absolutely despise him!And he is good for adding a bit of trouble to the whole Rumple/Belle/Baelfire/Emma/Compass/Milah/everything in everyone’s life thing(in fact he’s kind of necessary).But if you’re wanting Hook to be redeemed onto the good side so he can have more screen time,i don’t think that’s gonna happen.Plus,like the others said,Hook is prolly gonna be on more in the upcoming stuff.We still need to see him Neverland,yes,and now he’s prolly gonna want revenge on Cora and Regina now.So don’t stop yet,or you’ll miss him.

Keeper of King George's Coat of arms;Tiny's pickaxe;Belle's bronze vase;Emma Hacker device and true love kiss to Henry;Granny's surcharge on pickles;Snow's "Good will always win;Regina's apple turnover;Gold's pink shirt,Mickey phone,&glasses(1x12);RQ's chess set,and Chip's shattered remains

[ser_dragon]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

@SpinningGold wrote:

It’s not the Hook show.

I agree. People are entitled to their own opinions and wants etc but it does slightly annoy me how all of a sudden the show isn’t good enough for some people because it isn’t all about Hook. It’s an ensemble show not the Hook and company show. Hook is serving his current purpose well. He is likely to get more screentime when they get on to the Neverland story arc.

Belle is a main character but she isn’t in every episode. Sometimes she only gets a short scene like in Manhattan where she was knocked out by Regina. In The Queen of Hearts, her only scene was in flashback and she was knocked out by Hook. She is getting more screentime now because the story requires her to have more screentime. When the story requires Hook, he’ll have more screentime too.

It’s the question of quality over quantity. Would you prefer Hook to have less screentime but actually serve the story and have a purpose when onscreen or would you prefer him to be in every scene just for the sake of being there?

Thank you to you both, thank you for saying out loud what I thought after reading that post. C’mon! I’m sorry TheBee but I won’t support you there. In some way you remember me those people that tweeted Adam menacing to quit the show if they turn Belle a Hooker. You know Rumpel didn’t appeared that much in season 1. And why? Because it was not the Rumpel show either. Ok, he is a main character pretty much now, but in season one it was first and foremost Emma and Snow and Charming and Regina. So even if I was a bit disappointed not seing him I still watched the show cause I love it as much as I love Rumpel. Of course I would be very upset if they decide to kill him in future, of course I’m upset about the Belle rejecting him plot, but I would still follow. Because this show is one of it’s kind.

Oh and seriously if you find a show as interesting, refreshing and original among all of the cop/medical/judicial dramas, please tell me.

But I which you good speed though and I hope you will come back to us.

[spinninggold]

I agree with everything you just said there SerDragon, and I think the reason Rumpel is getting more screentime this season is because his finding his son is elementary to solving the curse, the whole reason for the curse is him finding his son. So it is elementary to the story (for which I honestly admit I am very happy, because seeing Robert Carlyle act is an absolute joy)

And I am happy you all agree with me, but my question about what people expect from Hook was serious, because this is not the first time it was mentioned.
I don’t remember who, but somebody said in the flook threadthat they were disappointed with Hook not being the character they expected him to be and even before that people complaining that he has no depth, but I think he is living up to my expectations pretty well even exceding them (maybe because I was dead set on hating him because he wants to hurt Rumpel, and yet I kinda appreciate him nonetheless) I think Colin is doing a fine job, making someone that unlikeable as Hook likeable and charming, a sorta of Jack Sparrow on a day he is not drunk. He makes me laugh in the airtime he has got, and through his flamboyant actions makes sure OuaT does not become another high drama soap opera. He injects some much needed humor with his witty comebacks, and keeps the show lively (as well as explores his love affair with the floor) He’s outrageous, a scoundrel, but that’s the whole point. That’s why he is loveable. And his back story, for the moment, does not matter, it does not further the story. Tiny’s will, just like Cinderella’s did last season. Emma needed to make a deal with mr Gold. Storybrooke now needs those beans and his arrival needed to happen around the same time as mr Bean’s Greg Mendell. I’m sure we will get to Hook’s past eventually though.
So… why the hurry, Hook fans? And why change him? Did you just fall in love with his looks? Because to me he is just fine as he is.
Or can’t you get over the fact that you have fallen for the bad guy in the story and want to see him rehabilitated because of that? Yes, he’s a bad boy… Deal with it, bad boys are fun, especially in stories. Take it from someone that loves anti-heroes and bad boys in stories… it does not mean you are bad or that you have to find a bad boy in real life.

Just that you have taste and depth 😆

[jessieparadoxes of people]

Wonderfully said,SpinningGold!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Keeper of King George's Coat of arms;Tiny's pickaxe;Belle's bronze vase;Emma Hacker device and true love kiss to Henry;Granny's surcharge on pickles;Snow's "Good will always win;Regina's apple turnover;Gold's pink shirt,Mickey phone,&glasses(1x12);RQ's chess set,and Chip's shattered remains

[laurieanne]

I agree!!

[Killian Jones]

I’m a big fan of Hook, I ship CaptianSwan and I haven’t been dissapointed with what I’ve seen from Hook at all. The Outsider wasn’t too long ago and it was all about Hook going after Rumple. Would I want that to be the show to be that every week though? No because that’s not what this show is. Every character at some point gets the focus furned on them and that’s what makes the show great. If someone is upset that their favorite character isn’t geting the screen time they think they should get then wait for the spinoff.

[sacrlc]

TheBee, I’m so sorry you wish to leave because the show isn’t turning out the way you want it to. Hook is hot, no doubt, but he is just one character in the ensemble. Several of the characters, other than the initial core group, did not become prominent until the story line took a turn that made them a central character. Look at Ruby, Grumpy, Jefferson, Sidney, Dr. Hopper, Cora, Dr. Whale, etc. Colin O’Donoghue was originally supposed to be in just a few episodes, but Hook was soon made a regular character which means they have much more in store for his character, just not yet.

But that’s the charm of the show, the unpredictability, the surprises, the hints to the upcoming events/storylines, the mix of fairy tales, myths and legends interrelating with each other, all in an unusual but eventually satisfying way. Even the episodes that some call the “filler” episodes are actually full of hints, setups and introductions for major upcoming threads. The cannon themes: “love is the most powerful magic” and “all magic comes with a price”, provide the impetus for many of the twists, surprises and outcomes, good, bad or ugly.

Yes, there are nonsense and repetitive posts and occasionally what appears to be prickly dialogue between a couple posters, but I just overlook them and continue to read the posts for the nuggets that become facinating. I sometimes rewatch the older episodes to find what I missed that contributed to the later stories that a poster may have pointed out. The comments and links that appear within this forum are interesting to follow and will many times give me pause for thought. This forum and show will often pique my curiosity enough to search for information on the legends, fairytales, runes, alchemy, talismans and symbols which are many times actually clues to the story or easter eggs/nods to other shows, legends, and folklore. (Thank goodness for books, Google and Wikipedia).

The “Caption Threads” by PriceOfMagic albeit not really about the show, is absolutely priceless and provides quite a bit of fun during the hiatus.

TheBee, please reconsider. Just think, the show would be quickly boring if it were not written the way it is. Anticipation of the twists and turns to come are what is exciting.

Alas, I will have to admit to having one complaint: the lame way the characters reacted when they found out that Dr. Hopper was not dead after all. 🙄

Don't grow up. It's a trap.

[sarah_tn]

@SpinningGold wrote:

I agree with everything you just said there SerDragon, and I think the reason Rumpel is getting more screentime this season is because his finding his son is elementary to solving the curse, the whole reason for the curse is him finding his son. So it is elementary to the story (for which I honestly admit I am very happy, because seeing Robert Carlyle act is an absolute joy)

And I am happy you all agree with me, but my question about what people expect from Hook was serious, because this is not the first time it was mentioned.
I don’t remember who, but somebody said in the flook threadthat they were disappointed with Hook not being the character they expected him to be and even before that people complaining that he has no depth, but I think he is living up to my expectations pretty well even exceding them (maybe because I was dead set on hating him because he wants to hurt Rumpel, and yet I kinda appreciate him nonetheless) I think Colin is doing a fine job, making someone that unlikeable as Hook likeable and charming, a sorta of Jack Sparrow on a day he is not drunk. He makes me laugh in the airtime he has got, and through his flamboyant actions makes sure OuaT does not become another high drama soap opera. He injects some much needed humor with his witty comebacks, and keeps the show lively (as well as explores his love affair with the floor) He’s outrageous, a scoundrel, but that’s the whole point. That’s why he is loveable. And his back story, for the moment, does not matter, it does not further the story. Tiny’s will, just like Cinderella’s did last season. Emma needed to make a deal with mr Gold. Storybrooke now needs those beans and his arrival needed to happen around the same time as mr Bean’s Greg Mendell. I’m sure we will get to Hook’s past eventually though.
So… why the hurry, Hook fans? And why change him? Did you just fall in love with his looks? Because to me he is just fine as he is.
Or can’t you get over the fact that you have fallen for the bad guy in the story and want to see him rehabilitated because of that? Yes, he’s a bad boy… Deal with it, bad boys are fun, especially in stories. Take it from someone that loves anti-heroes and bad boys in stories… it does not mean you are bad or that you have to find a bad boy in real life.

Just that you have taste and depth 😆

I think Colin’s doing a great job too. I don’t think the complaints are about the actor, or about the character. I think the complaints are about some people who feel like the writers haven’t taken him (or his fans) seriously. I think it all comes down to how often (and for how long) he’s seen on episodes.. I agree he’s not being used enough, but that’s not the character’s fault, or the actor’s fault. I’d like to see the writers find ways to integrate him in. Would there be a purpose for it? Yes, if they can create one.

I wish so much I were a show writer. I think that’d have to be the coolest job in the world; being able to pull the strings that way, and basically that kind of power to create anything I want. Maybe someday, if God wills it….probably not, but I can dream! 😉

[Killian Jones]

@sacrlc wrote:

I sometimes rewatch the older episodes to find what I missed that contributed to the later stories that a poster may have pointed out.

That’s the part of the show that is the most fun for me after learning new stuff with each new episode then re-watching past ones with that new information. After watching “Manhattan” I had to re-watch Tallahassee just because we know that Neal is Bae now. Or like when Belle loses her memory I had to re-watch “A Land Without Magic” just to see how Rumple was able to get Belle to trust him when she didn’t have her memories then either. Then of course that made me want to watch all the Beauty and The Beast episodes from Skin Deep on lol.

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