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Lily is the Black Swan, and other Swan Lake connections

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › General discussion and theories › Lily is the Black Swan, and other Swan Lake connections

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  • This topic has 23 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by RumplesGirl.
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  • April 26, 2015 at 4:25 pm #302711
    RumplesGirl
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    Also, if you look up the cast list for Black Swan on IMDB or WIkipedia, Mila Kunis is credited as “lily/THE BLACK SWAN”–FYI Who cares about the actual plot of Nina being her own black swan.

    You’d rather trust a list on a website than the actual plot before your eyes? She’s listed as the Black Swan because Nina sees her as such. Because to Nina she is the Black Swan and was set up in the narrative to be such (in the movie it self, Lily is also cast the Black Swan for the in show ballet) but is ultimately a red herring to the real Black Swan, Nina’s own psychosis and breakdown leading her to almost literally transform while dancing.

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    April 26, 2015 at 4:27 pm #302712
    Media Critic
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    Oh, and just to clarify, my “you’re wrong” statements were clearly just jokes, hence the winky smiley face at the end!

     

    You seem to be of two minds. You’re suggesting right now that it’s just a tiny little connection that you found. That’s fine. BUT in your OP you state…..

    This could mean two things: Either it’s just a wink and a nod to Swan Lake and Black Swan, or 

    Notice, I give two options: Either it’s just a wink or nod (that is, “a small connection”) or it could be a more elaborate one. Obviously, I can’t know for sure. I just noticed the connection, and believe that it is not a coincidence. Either the writers are just referencing it or it could play a larger role.

    I like Mathew’s theory that it could even be BOTH the lilith myth and Swan Lake/Black Swan theory combined. But I do think there is in fact a Swan Lake connection, especially with August.

    April 26, 2015 at 4:30 pm #302714
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    You’d rather trust a list on a website than the actual plot before your eyes? 

     

    No! This is her character. The director of the film listed her as such in the credits of the actual film. I know the story. The Nina being her own Black Swan is a psycho-analysis twist in the film. But for all intents and purposes, Lily is, on face, the black swan. Again, it could be just a reference to this and not an exact parallel!

    April 26, 2015 at 4:33 pm #302715
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I like Mathew’s theory that it could even be BOTH the lilith myth and Swan Lake/Black Swan theory combined. But I do think there is in fact a Swan Lake connection, especially with August.

    Well so do I. I think that’s far more likely since A and E like pop culture as well as mythology and I do think there is a Swan Lake connection, I haven’t said otherwise. I think just it’s a more tight connection than just Lily’s name and her supposed role in the film as the titular Black Swan (which she’s not, ultimately). I think it has to do with what A and E have said, if Emma goes dark (as she is), then Emma is the Black Swan, and Lily as the “ultimate evil/antagonist” is more a distraction until the big reveal. That doesn’t change anything you find about August.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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