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October 27, 2014 at 1:31 am #287625PheeParticipant
We are presented with an orphaned girl with a pentagram shaped mark on her wrist. Her is name Lilith, the name of a female demon from myth
It is kind of curious that they named her Lilith, when frankly, Lillian might have felt more fitting due to Marian being the source of conflict in the present day situation they were trying to parallel.
The wrist star though, I’m inclined to just put that down to a reason that Emma got the flower tatt on her wrist, as a means to try and counteract the bad memory of the wrist star.
[adrotate group="5"]October 27, 2014 at 1:55 am #287632scarletladyParticipantEmma’s flower is charming’s crest & Regina also has a black feather on her wrist.
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October 27, 2014 at 2:02 am #287633PheeParticipantEmma’s flower is charming’s crest & Regina also has a black feather on her wrist.
Yeah I know it’s the flower from the family crest, but we’ve never had an explanation for why she got a tatt there in the first place, but this thing with the star seems to point towards a reason. Five petal flower on her wrist to try and replace the bad memory of the five pointed star on her wrist.
And does Regina actually have the feather tatt, or is that just a Lana thing? Off the top of my head I can’t recall ever seeing it on Regina, but I dunno how often we’ve seen that part of her arm exposed anyway? I know Lana got the tatt for a personal reason to do with the defining moment in her life.
October 27, 2014 at 3:31 am #287639scarletladyParticipantEmma’s flower is charming’s crest & Regina also has a black feather on her wrist.
Yeah I know it’s the flower from the family crest, but we’ve never had an explanation for why she got a tatt there in the first place, but this thing with the star seems to point towards a reason. Five petal flower on her wrist to try and replace the bad memory of the five pointed star on her wrist.
And does Regina actually have the feather tatt, or is that just a Lana thing? Off the top of my head I can’t recall ever seeing it on Regina, but I dunno how often we’ve seen that part of her arm exposed anyway? I know Lana got the tatt for a personal reason to do with the defining moment in her life.
It was visable in The thing you love most & is listed under trivia for the Evil Queen on onces wiki.
http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_Queen
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October 27, 2014 at 3:53 am #287641PheeParticipantInteresting that they let it be visible that time, but looking at 403 when she was wearing short sleeves, it looks like they’ve covered the tatt with makeup so it can’t be seen.
October 27, 2014 at 6:58 am #287643TheWatcherParticipantI am thinking there is much more to Lilly that we will find out in a later season and I think it will be that she is a villain.
It’s really sad that we think she will be evil. It’s like the good guys get no play here anymore. I am going to be different and say she is a hero like Harry Potter. Her scar means something and like Emma, she has a destiny to fulfill. Lily was also adopted, as she said. Who are her parents?
Also, this episode had tons of SwanQueen moments…. I’m not going to lie… I could easily hop aboard this Emma/Lilly ship. Let’s see where the future takes us.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICOctober 27, 2014 at 9:22 am #287659RumplesGirlKeymasterYou guys make some good points about the name and her tattoo. If we do see Lily again, then I’m guessing it’ll be in the second half.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 27, 2014 at 11:00 am #287673Heart of DarknessParticipantI really like how this tied into what Emma said she learned from experience: “Once you screw someone over, there’s no getting them back.”
Only in this case it was Emma who got screwed over, and Lily couldn’t get her back.
October 27, 2014 at 4:16 pm #287715nealfanforeverParticipantPerhaps Regina’s feather is only visible in the Enchanted Forest…like her green ring is only visible in Storybrooke. One this is for sure…her feather is shown for a reason. Listen to what Ginnifer Goodwin (Mary Margaret/Snow) says in an interview…
Ginnifer Goodwin, ” I wish they’d let me use my tattoo (apple on inside of upper arm) on the show, but they’re not gonna let me. To me, apples of course symbolize wisdom and purity and all kinds of things. I do love the thought that the apple is something that Snow White uses as a symbol of survival; this is the thing that she overcame, so it’s like a reminder to her…”
I think tattoo’s are going to be important in the storyline. Think the Scarlet Pimpernell’s hero with a secret identity. So…here is my crazy, wild, wayout there prediction regarding the tattoo’s.
Emma’s tattoo – An Apple Blossom
Mary Margaret’s tattoo (if ever shown)…an Apple.
Regina’s tattoo – the Black feather from Dumbo. The Black feather gave baby Dumbo hope that he could fly. I also think the Baby Dumbo/Mrs. Jumbo story will prove to none other than Mary Margaret/Regina. Yes….I think that Regina is Mary Margaret’s real mother and that memories were erased. I posted about this a while back. Also…even more way out there…I think that Regina is the original Snow White. Just like Aurora is not the original Disney Aurora…I think that Mary Margaret is not the original Disney Snow White. I think Regina’s secret identity is that she is the original Snow White and Mary Margaret is her daughter who was lost to her….a daughter she does not even remember she gave birth to. Who was the father? Robin Hood….aka…the original Prince Charming. Regina (which is a name given by Cora her evil adopted mother) is not her real name. Maybe her real name is Snow White…or maybe she has three names like David, James and Charming. It would be very interesting if her real name turns out to be Mary or Marian or maybe even Emma. Remember the Disney movie Robin Hood….well one identity Robin Hood had was that of the Stork. I’m pretty sure that the Stork dropped a bundle in Regina’s lap. Maybe that is why there is a Stork on the key that Granny gives to Emma at the end of the very first episode. Because when Emma took that key….it was the beginning of Regina getting her happy ending back. (and wouldn’t it be cool if cold frozen Marian is really a fake wife, sort of like David and Kathryn…and wouldn’t it be too cool if Regina really is Roland’s mother and who knows why he is little…maybe someone turned him back like August Booth became a kid again).
Robin Hood’s tattoo….a Lion Yep…I think Robin Hood is going to end up being the original Prince Charming from Snow White and the seven dwarfs. If you look at the vintage paper dolls for Snow White and her Prince you will find the Lion symbol on most of the Prince’s clothing. It is also in the front cover of the Big Golden Book. You can also see alot of Robin Hood in Bandit Snow.
……and together…I’m pretty sure that makes them the Incredibles lol.
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October 27, 2014 at 4:16 pm #287717SlurpeezParticipantI don’t think Lily is a one-off character, nor do I think she is necessarily just a normal kid. This would be similar to how Neal was not just some random regular guy from our world, but directly connected back to the Enchanted Forest. Lily will almost certainly reappear later on this season.
It’s really sad that we think she will be evil. It’s like the good guys get no play here anymore. I am going to be different and say she is a hero like Harry Potter. Her scar means something and like Emma, she has a destiny to fulfill. Lily was also adopted, as she said.
Also, I don’t think Lily has to be evil. After all, the name Lily comes from the lily flower, which stands for purity. The flower lily is a symbol of innocence; purity and beauty. Lily was shown to have a star birthmark (or was it a tattoo?). Anyway, Lily’s star made me think of fairies, who are also stars. (aka Nova as in Super Nova or Astrid, another word for star, or Blue Fairy = Blue Star) So maybe Lily was a young fairy who somehow came to our land and was adopted?
Who are her parents?
Crack theory: Lily is the Blue Fairy’s biological daughter.
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