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March 30, 2015 at 3:28 pm #300328storybrookegirlParticipant
Who do you think Lily’s father is? I think he’s the sorcerer. It would explain Lily’s star mark, which matches the stars of the sorcerer’s hat.
That was definitely my first thought, that Lily’s father is the sorcerer because of the star tattoo. Another option, however, is that Lily is the sorcerer. We haven’t seen the sorcerer at this point, and people have commented that the apprentice seems to do everything and that they don’t think the sorcerer exists. Maybe it’s not that the sorcerer doesn’t exist, but that either 1) “Sorcerer” is a title, not a name, Author-style, and the current one died or something and then Lily is meant to be the next one, or 2) the apprentice knew that the sorcerer would be born one day, because he has the sight and can see the future, but she hadn’t been born yet until Lily came along.
[adrotate group="5"]March 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm #300344SlurpeezParticipantAnother option, however, is that Lily is the sorcerer. We haven’t seen the sorcerer at this point, and people have commented that the apprentice seems to do everything and that they don’t think the sorcerer exists. Maybe it’s not that the sorcerer doesn’t exist, but that either 1) “Sorcerer” is a title, not a name, Author-style, and the current one died or something and then Lily is meant to be the next one, or 2) the apprentice knew that the sorcerer would be born one day, because he has the sight and can see the future, but she hadn’t been born yet until Lily came along.
I’ve long maintained that Lily is the sorceress. I think she may have inherited the title, along with the hat, from her dad. Just a guess. Either that, or she stole the hat from the sorcerer to gain the title for herself.
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March 31, 2015 at 1:25 pm #300424WickedRegalParticipantFOUND THIS ON TWITTER! CAN’T STOP LAUGHING!
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October 24, 2015 at 6:43 am #310726TheWatcherParticipantSo….. what if Maleficent does not know who Lily’s papa is because….. the dragon mal mated with….. WAIT FOR IT….. the dragon Maleficent mated with…. was a hydra! Who had multiple heads and due to dragon biology whichever head was in charge of the act is the father… but, ya know. She wouldn’t know who it was. What about that? If we are going to visit Greek mythos it’d seem appropriate.
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If we’re going Greek mythology next season, then it could be Python, who was slain by Apollo, and who’s former home became Delphi, the most famous Ancient Greek holy site, known for prophecy. Lily has been tied to prophecy and fate (along with Emma).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 24, 2015 at 9:02 am #310731ClessidorParticipantMy guess based on spoilers is:
That based on the “Distinguished Gentleman” they are casting, that they are making Hades a very devil-like character and in European legends and folklore the devil appears often in the form of a dragon. This and the Lily’s name make thing that she is gonna be Hades daughter.
Wasn’t there even a disney cartoon episode in which Hades tries to flirt with Maleficent? I can barely remember watching something like that.“There were thousands and thousands of forms of joy in the world, but that all were essentially one and the same, namely, the joy of being able to love.”
— from the Neverending Story by Michael EndeOctober 24, 2015 at 9:39 am #310734RumplesGirlKeymasterMy guess based on spoilers is: That based on the “Distinguished Gentleman” they are casting, that they are making Hades a very devil-like character and in European legends and folklore the devil appears often in the form of a dragon. This and the Lily’s name make thing that she is gonna be Hades daughter. Wasn’t there even a disney cartoon episode in which Hades tries to flirt with Maleficent? I can barely remember watching something like that.
OH!
Oh that might actually be it. It would make her Melinoe (sort of…) who was Persephone’s Daughter with Zeus (who disguised himself as Hades/Pluto–because Zeus is a terrible god) but they can easily change that. Melinoe is sometime thought to be the bringer of madness and nightmare and sometimes the terms used to describe her as akin to how other moon (tattoo!) goddess are described.
Here have a Greek hymn about her
I call upon Melinoe, saffron-cloaked nymph of the earth,
To whom august Persephone gave birth by the mouth of the Kokytos,
Upon the sacred bed of Kronian Zeus
He lied to Plouton and through treachery mated with Persephone,
Whose skin when she was pregnant he mangled in anger.
She drives mortals to madness with her airy phantoms,
As she appears in weird shapes and forms,
Now plain to the eye, now shadowy, now shining in the darkness,
And all this in hostile encounters in the gloom of night.
But, goddess and queen of those below, I beseech you,
To banish the soul’s frenzy to the ends of the earth,
and show a kindly and holy face to the initiates"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 24, 2015 at 4:05 pm #310745TheWatcherParticipantooooooooh THAT’S BRILLIANT! Hades had a thing for Maleficent in an episode of House of Mouse!!!!! But the only thing though is that Hades isn’t really know for turning into a dragon. In the movie Hercules, there is the hydra that Hades sets to attack Hercules, but still.
WHY DID WE NOT SEE IT BEFORE! MALEFICENT IS THE MISTRESS OF ALL EVIL! SHE UNLEASHED THE FORCES OF HELL! It all makes sense!!!!!!
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October 24, 2015 at 4:24 pm #310747nevermoreParticipantHades being Lily’s dad would certainly tie in the different story lines together. And if we go with Greek mythology, the gods definitely weren’t strangers to shape shifting — Zeus being especially prone to it of course, but Poseidon often showed up as a horse too. There’s no reason why Hades, being one of the three brothers, wouldn’t be able to shape shift too.
And that would be one more parallel to the show Lost Girl.
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of intersecting themes lately between the two shows. And Hades, of course, if he shows up on OUAT, is one.
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