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March 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm #176006HappyEndingsSpectator
I didn’t like the Frankstien stuff nor that Tiny or Hook episodes plus all the ones that David was the man character in Storybrooke after the curse was broken there also seems to be a lot of missing pieces that need to be filled in ie: Where and how did Hook get the last bean from the Giant? Why didn’t James just kill the last Giant and take all the money? Just a few pot holes that just don’t make any sense to me and probably to a lot of people.
We have had 3 framed murders (Red, Snow and Cora), 3 people who have lost their memories (Bella, David, Sneezy). The story line to me hasn’t really moved on we are stuck on Hook, and Belle now to be honest I am even losing interest and this was the one show I always looked forward too. 😥
[adrotate group="5"]March 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm #179046RumplesGirlKeymasterI think we need big resolutions and soon. And I think we're going to get them, if slowly. Belle probably gets her memories back in 19, Lacey. They are going to resolve Pinocchio in 18, right before the hiatus. Hook will probably have some huge moments in 21 and 22 that will change his character. I do agree that this season needs to be more streamlined. Now that the Cora story is over, the big threat has to be Greg, the outside world, and Evil Queen Regina on the rampage again.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 4:42 pm #179049HappyEndingsSpectatorExcept the fact that we won’t know how August knew Neil was Belfire tell next year, see this stuff gets old. What about the Blue Fairy she seems total worthless after they made a big deal that she was the most powerful with magic stuff just doesn’t add up and you can only play along for so long in my opinion.
What about that whistle that the Huntsman gave Snow that is still in limbo ❓
March 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm #179053antbeeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
I think people really don’t like this Season as much as they did the 1st one, also all these breaks kind of wear people down. 😕
I wonder why that is. I’ve thought this season had been very strong, especially the last few episodes. Was it the filler episodes people didn’t like? Frankenstien, Tiny, ect? These episodes from Manhattan to the finale are focusing on the main characters. We really need to get a boost next week.
Well I can’t speak for everyone, but even though the first third of the season before the winter break had some good episodes, I don’t think they should have spent so much time in present day FTL and with so many new characters especially Aurora and Mulan. I guess it’s possible that there’s a return trip back to FTL before the end of the season, so they needed to lay groundwork for that to happen. Right now though, it just seems like such a big waste of time when there was so much momentum happening from the Curse being partially broken at the end of last season and the start of this season and seeing how people reacted to that.
Not that I’m against new characters, but I feel like they missed a big opportunity to focus on what happened to the characters that we already knew of in Storybrooke, like Abigail, Frederick, Ella, Sydney, Nova, etc., and how they were adapting to getting their memories back. I know some of it is scheduling because many of the actors were on other shows, but I would have spent more time on that instead of just jumping to present day FTL right away. Or maybe they should have just focused on Storybrooke more by highlighting more than just the main characters, they could have focused on present day FTL but just cut out the flashbacks since when they tried to do three story lines with present day Storybrooke and FTL and flashbacks, most of the time they didn’t work together. Like maybe flashbacks would match either what was going on in Storybrooke or what was going on in FTL, but all three story lines would never really go together.
Further, I think that besides trying to cram three story lines together in one episode, I think they drug out the present day FTL story line for too long. We still could have met Aurora, Mulan, Hook, and Anton and had Emma and Snow only be gone for a two to three episodes instead of nine episodes. I also feel that they focused too much on Regina’s redemption story line during those first nine episodes. I get that it’s a major part of this season, but it just didn’t make for very good television for the most part, imo.
Anyhow, I can see why people left the show in big numbers because they started to lose focus on what made the first season so addictive to watch. There was more action going on in the first half of this season than there was last season, but I think that they sacrificed the characters’ relationships a lot more until the past few episodes. Now that they’re back to focusing in on those relationships more, I think there’s definitely a noticeable change in how great the show can be again. I stuck around because I still enjoy the show even when it’s not a very good episode like how I felt about “The Doctor” or “Child of the Moon”, but there’s so many other options on Sunday nights that I could see how people may have just gave up on it.
I don’t the ratings are enough for me to start panicking yet even though it’s sad the show will likely never get the ratings that it use to. I just hope that the writers realize what they did wrong in losing so many viewers and keep doing what they’ve been doing the last few episodes to keep most of the viewers that they still have.
March 11, 2013 at 4:50 pm #179055RumplesGirlKeymaster@HappyEndings wrote:
Except the fact that we won’t know how August knew Neil was Belfire tell next year, see this stuff gets old. What about the Blue Fairy she seems total worthless after they made a big deal that she was the most powerful with magic stuff just doesn’t add up and you can only play along for so long in my opinion.
What about that whistle that the Huntsman gave Snow that is still in limbo ❓
I don’t disagree that I want answers, but these two were on LOST for 6 years where you got maybe one BIG answer a season and a few little ones here and there. If they are keeping BF and August/Neal under their hats it’s because it serves the story better to tell it later. If we get all the answers now, we wouldn’t have a show.
That doesn’t mean there aren’t plot holes that do get annoying. Like I said, it needs to be more streamlined next season if we want to stay afloat for a S4. I think they need to stop introducing so many character (I say this knowing full well we’re going to Neverland) but, I guess, introducing characters that only serve one story for one episode. I love that Dr. Whale was Frankie and it was fine to get one episode for that but I didn’t need two, I didn’t need a Jack the Giant killer story (even though I liked Anton, I didn’t need an entire episode devoted to him). They need to play to their strengths which are the core cast of Emma, Snow/Charming, Rumple, Regina. The other characters float around those guys. I think they’ll learn a lot from this season and hopefully, if we do get renewed for a full S3, they will take things into consideration. I trust Adam and Eddy and if they tell me to wait for the big things, I will. Goodness knows I did it for 6 years with LOST."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 4:57 pm #179058RumplesGirlKeymasterAntBee: I was going to bring up Child of the Moon but I fear the wrath of the Little Reds. Now, I love Ruby, I do, but I’m starting to wonder what else they can possibly do with her in flashbacks. We had the big reveal that she was the wolf in S1 and that was great. Child of the Moon was the obvious next story to tell, but there can’t be much more and I don’t want them to give me a filler just because they have to serve each cast member, even though I think Meghan Ory is great. And as much as I love Belle, her flashback episode in The Outsider didn’t do a whole lot for me. Her story is so wrapped up in Rumple that when they diverge from it, to tell her tale, I don’t lose interest necessarily, but I find myself longing for Rumple.
I agree with you about being in FTL too long. I know why they did it, get us to Xmas and have the final episode before holiday be the big return but it did drag on too much. And a lot of it felt like it was just moving from place to place. Looking back, the begging of S2 had some highlights (Broken, The Crocodile, Queen of Hearts), but overall it was weaker than I expected.
And I also think we’re never going to get back to the 11 million live viewers unless the do some magic of their own. I just hope ABC sees that each week (live and then over the week) they do bring in about 10 million viewers and at least a 2.8-3.0 ratings share. It’s got to count for something. And if you look at other similar shows, Once is doing better than say Grimm or Beauty and the Beast over on the CW."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 5:01 pm #179059MatthewPaulModeratorMaybe with Regina seemingly returning as the the main baddie everyone loved, interest in this Season will be renewed. Evil Regina was something viewers loved to watch. I know plenty who were sick of Hook and Cora.
As for Ruby, Meghan Ory just got picked up for a CBS pilot called “Intelligence.” If that pilot is picked up for a series, that could mean seeing Ruby written off the show or at least reduced to recurring guest role.
March 11, 2013 at 5:03 pm #179060RumplesGirlKeymaster@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Maybe with Regina seemingly returning as the the main baddie everyone loved, interest in this Season will be renewed. Evil Regina was something viewers loved to watch. I know plenty who were sick of Hook and Cora.
As for Ruby, Meghan Ory just got picked up for a CBS pilot called “Intelligence.” If that pilot is picked up for a series, that could mean seeing Ruby written off the show or at least reduced to recurring guest role.
whoa, really??? Can’t say I’m surprised given that Meghan’s role has been dramatically reduced but I wonder if that means Ruby will be killed.
I also wonder if we’ll lose more viewers if Ruby leaves/dies."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm #179062HappyEndingsSpectator@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Maybe with Regina seemingly returning as the the main baddie everyone loved, interest in this Season will be renewed. Evil Regina was something viewers loved to watch. I know plenty who were sick of Hook and Cora.
As for Ruby, Meghan Ory just got picked up for a CBS pilot called “Intelligence.” If that pilot is picked up for a series, that could mean seeing Ruby written off the show or at least reduced to recurring guest role.
See that is a bummer on Ruby/Red if they didn’t dink around on this Hook and Belle’s stuff maybe they wouldn’t have lost her. The guy that plays the Madhatter won’t be around much either so you wonder how many else will be doing the same thing. 👿
As for the Evil Queen, I prefer Regina in this role then the other.
March 11, 2013 at 5:11 pm #179063RumplesGirlKeymasterThere is a difference between Sebastian Stan, he is super high demand because of the Captain America franchise. He’s super busy, but they still want him to come back.
I do love Ruby but I don’t know how much more she can serve the story. And it’s the story that matters.
I also prefer Regina as the EQ but you can’t have her be a cliche bad character. She needs redemption at some point.
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