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March 11, 2013 at 5:16 pm #179065HappyEndingsSpectator
At least if they get down to the final battle Red can fight, too bad it isn’t that stupid cricket leaving it.
I don’t think everyone needs redemption she had her chance when she was banish from Snow’s Kingdom to do something else even her father wanted her to do something else but she won’t.
[adrotate group="5"]March 11, 2013 at 5:47 pm #179071RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m going to put the redemption argument off to one side since this is a rating thread and we shouldn’t go too far off topic π
And for those who came to this thread just see the ratings from “The Miller’s Daughter” here is the link: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/03/11/tv-ratings-sunday-revenge-the-mentalist-rise-red-widow-falls-further-once-upon-a-time-celebrity-apprentice-flat/172847/
Now you don’t have to go back through a few pages of us talking about it.
The “next day” ratings will probably be up tomorrow and we should see an increase."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 6:03 pm #179073antbeeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
AntBee: I was going to bring up Child of the Moon but I fear the wrath of the Little Reds. Now, I love Ruby, I do, but I’m starting to wonder what else they can possibly do with her in flashbacks. We had the big reveal that she was the wolf in S1 and that was great. Child of the Moon was the obvious next story to tell, but there can’t be much more and I don’t want them to give me a filler just because they have to serve each cast member, even though I think Meghan Ory is great.
Oh I love Red too, but “Child of the Moon” was so disappointing after the great Red centric episode of season 1. It was nice to see more of her back story, but yes, now there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot left to go with her unfortunately. I do hope that we get to see more of her and Belle together and her and Snow being friends again. I know that right now there’s so many other loose ends to tie up, but it’s been disappointing that Red only went to see Belle once at the hospital, that we know of, and lied to her about magic. I get why she lied, but it was still disappointing that they had her do that. I also want to see more interaction between her and Dr. Whale not necessarily romantic, but something that gives them more to do perhaps.
And as much as I love Belle, her flashback episode in The Outsider didn’t do a whole lot for me. Her story is so wrapped up in Rumple that when they diverge from it, to tell her tale, I don’t lose interest necessarily, but I find myself longing for Rumple.
I enjoyed “The Outsider”, but I can see what you mean about longing for Rumple. Maybe they should have made Belle independent earlier this season and more often than just some glimpses in “The Crocodile” to flesh out her character more instead of waiting until after the winter break.
I agree with you about being in FTL too long. I know why they did it, get us to Xmas and have the final episode before holiday be the big return but it did drag on too much. And a lot of it felt like it was just moving from place to place. Looking back, the begging of S2 had some highlights (Broken, The Crocodile, Queen of Hearts), but overall it was weaker than I expected.
Yes, I enjoyed those three episodes that you mentioned plus I liked “We Are Both”, “Lady of the Lake,” “Tallahassee”, and “Into the Deep”, so there were definitely some strong points, but I think maybe it was all overshadowed by the writers staying in present day FTL for too long.
I think the only times that I really enjoyed the present day FTL story line for the whole episode and not just a few scenes during an episode would be in “Into the Deep” and “We Are Both”. I don’t think that “We Are Both” really counts though since there was only a short amount of time spent on present day FTL.
And I also think we’re never going to get back to the 11 million live viewers unless the do some magic of their own. I just hope ABC sees that each week (live and then over the week) they do bring in about 10 million viewers and at least a 2.8-3.0 ratings share. It’s got to count for something. And if you look at other similar shows, Once is doing better than say Grimm or Beauty and the Beast over on the CW.
Yes, I’m not panicking yet because ABC has so many other shows that are getting worse ratings. I’ll begin to worry though if next season the new shows start to pull in better ratings than Once especially if they seem cheaper to produce and/or easier to resell for syndication like procedurals. Although I think we’ll be almost guaranteed a fourth season since a third seems likely since they do want to get to syndication, and the only way they’ll be able to do that is with four seasons. Not that I want to jinx the show, but I think as long as ratings stay where they are right now for next season, then we’ll get a fourth season because of syndication. I am worried about getting a fifth season though.
March 11, 2013 at 6:47 pm #179083RumplesGirlKeymasterARG! I totally forgot Tallahassee. Yes, that was a stand out as well.
I’ve been looking at ratings for other shows that are fantasy/sci-fi, even if not on ABC. Fringe went for five seasons, mostly because of the dedicated fan base that wouldn’t let FOX cancel it, and they barely peaked 5 million views by about S3.
So, we can stare at these ratings every week, but it’s a crap shoot. We’re getting a S3 (and after reading AntBee’s response probably a full 22 episode one) and we’ll see where it goes from there.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 7:31 pm #179103MatthewPaulModeratorOne other thing to keep in mind is that despite this ratings slump, Once is still hugely popular worldwide. The worldwide audience is certainly something that will continue to make Once a valuable property to Disney and ABC.
March 11, 2013 at 10:50 pm #179178nonnieParticipantABC
7pm β Americaβs Funniest Home Videos: 1.4 in the demo (-18% change) with 6.31 million.
8pm β Once Upon a Time: 2.2 in the demo (0% change) with 7.45 million.
9pm β Revenge: 2.0 in the demo (+11% change) with 6.83 million.
10pm β Red Widow: 1.2 in the demo (-20% change) with 5.32 million..
.March 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm #179180RumplesGirlKeymasterAFV dropped quite a bit but that’s probably because of DST, people stay out later when there is more light.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 11, 2013 at 11:01 pm #179190HappyEndingsSpectatorI don’t know how that AFV stays on that isn’t even funny, I flip to 60 mins that I think is on at that time then back to Once. I don’t think that Red Widwo will make it this looks like another dumb show guess they are running out of ideas π
March 12, 2013 at 12:04 am #179210MatthewPaulModerator@HappyEndings wrote:
I don’t know how that AFV stays on that isn’t even funny, I flip to 60 mins that I think is on at that time then back to Once. I don’t think that Red Widwo will make it this looks like another dumb show guess they are running out of ideas π
Regarding AFV: The 7pm hour is somewhat considered a death slot, it does well enough, and it’s cheap.
March 12, 2013 at 1:06 am #179223antbeeParticipant@ItachiIshtar wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
I don’t know how that AFV stays on that isn’t even funny, I flip to 60 mins that I think is on at that time then back to Once. I don’t think that Red Widwo will make it this looks like another dumb show guess they are running out of ideas π
Regarding AFV: The 7pm hour is somewhat considered a death slot, it does well enough, and it’s cheap.
Yes, that’s what I was going to say that it must be incredibly cheap to produce. They don’t even use that many new videos anymore perhaps because more people would rather put them on YouTube instead, and I’m sure that they could find a new host pretty quickly if Tom Bergeron ever wanted too much money.
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