Link to Rating Discussion Season 2 — 2013

[RumplesGirl]

@ItachiIshtar wrote:

@steliokontos1 wrote:

so basically we pulled the same numbers even with the DST shot, lets see if with DVR we beat out Amazing Race

Actually, we pulled slightly higher numbers than last week even with the DST shot.

And, last week taking the live +7 into account, we ended up at 10 million viewers and a 3.0 ratings share. So, I can see it being higher this week, if only slightly. Maybe a 10.5 million viewers and probably staying at a 3.0 ratings share, meaning we won the hour against the Amazing Race in overall.

[Phee]

@Sarah_TN wrote:

Colin O’Donoghue didn’t tweet. He might have been filming yeah, but I think he should have at least supported his fellow cast members. Just because he wasn’t in it, didn’t mean it should have been an irrelevant issue. Raphael Sbarge tweeted during that time slot, and he wasn’t it in it either. I thought his doing that showed a lot of good sportsmanship on his part. After all, they all play for the same team!

We don’t even know if he’s in Vancouver right now. If he’s back in Ireland, it would have been about 3am when the show was airing.

[MysteryKat25]

@Phee wrote:

@Sarah_TN wrote:

Colin O’Donoghue didn’t tweet. He might have been filming yeah, but I think he should have at least supported his fellow cast members. Just because he wasn’t in it, didn’t mean it should have been an irrelevant issue. Raphael Sbarge tweeted during that time slot, and he wasn’t it in it either. I thought his doing that showed a lot of good sportsmanship on his part. After all, they all play for the same team!

We don’t even know if he’s in Vancouver right now. If he’s back in Ireland, it would have been about 3am when the show was airing.

Agreed, he might have been in Ireland and asleep by then. If Colin had been tweeting people would have asked him about Hook’s reaction to things and that’s something I bet we’re gonna see eventually so what would have been said? “Keep watching”?? There were many other cast members who tweet a lot too who were not involved in the official live chat.

This is the first one they’ve done in a long time but usually they each take episodes they’re in so they have something to address. Was surprised to see so many of them tweeting this one but I think part of it was to throw us off the trail (like having Meghan do one and make us worry about her). More than enough people to follow all at once while watching, didn’t need the entire cast of the show or we’d never know what was going on!

Hopefully they’ll switch off and perhaps Colin and a few others will do one for a different episode. The live-chats help bring in live viewers and they may want to spread them out a bit / not have the same people do them all the time. Also it depends on where the actors are at the time: they all tweeted the West Coast airing because that’s the only feed they could get so even if Colin wanted to tweet, if he were home in Ireland or something he wouldn’t have matched up with any viewing of it here.

I love Colin as much as the next person but the “he’s not tweeting” thing (way overdone on this board) is a bit inaccurate…he tweets when he has time, he’s very good to the fans and he shares a lot of pictures of him and Lee Arenberg (Grumpy!) hanging out so he must be around there sometimes (hopefully healing up so Hook can come back in full force!)

True Keegan wasn’t in the episode and tweeted some but she may usually do that. Some people are more dedicated to watching and interacting than others and by not being in the episode she had nothing to worry about spoiling / answering since the focus was on the announced people answering questions who were in the episode.

I know if I were in their shoes I’d be afraid to answer anything for fear of killing somebody’s theory or giving them something to read into that doesn’t mean anything. Live-tweets are great for getting buzz and interacting with various cast members and writers but they can occasionally be instant theory-killers. It’s a double-edged sword. Hopefully it helped in the ratings though.

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[RumplesGirl]

Their tweeting was nice and sometimes funny, but it wasn’t like they gave insight into the episode apart from the fact that it was cold on the dock (though when I saw that Emile tweeted “that’s my boyfriend” during a Rumple scene I think my insides turned to soup). It was, so far, the biggest episode of the season and ABC wanted to really to sell it so the cast helped out. I’m not sure if live tweeting would help every episode. I was so focused on the show that I didn’t even check Twitter until after the west coast show because I was on the these forums hashing out what had happened. It’s also the reason Adam doesn’t respond to every tweet question sent his way. Like LOST they want us to figure stuff out too, they know it’s part of the fun.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MatthewPaul]

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

I know if I were in their shoes I’d be afraid to answer anything for fear of killing somebody’s theory or giving them something to read into that doesn’t mean anything. Live-tweets are great for getting buzz and interacting with various cast members and writers but they can occasionally be instant theory-killers. It’s a double-edged sword. Hopefully it helped in the ratings though.

Any examples in particular of cast members killing theories via twitter? The only one I can think of is when Jane Espenson constantly confirmed that Rumple wasn’t Regina’s father, and she did so because the end of the episode was supposed to kill off that theory. Several people were simply confused.

[RumplesGirl]

@ItachiIshtar wrote:

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

I know if I were in their shoes I’d be afraid to answer anything for fear of killing somebody’s theory or giving them something to read into that doesn’t mean anything. Live-tweets are great for getting buzz and interacting with various cast members and writers but they can occasionally be instant theory-killers. It’s a double-edged sword. Hopefully it helped in the ratings though.

Any examples in particular of cast members killing theories via twitter? The only one I can think of is when Jane Espenson constantly confirmed that Rumple wasn’t Regina’s father, and she did so because the end of the episode was supposed to kill off that theory. Several people were simply confused.

Oh yea. I tweeted Adam and asked if Blue had her memories during the curse years and he said that she didn’t. It killed SO MANY Blue Fairy as the puppet Master theories.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MatthewPaul]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Oh yea. I tweeted Adam and asked if Blue had her memories during the curse years and he said that she didn’t. It killed SO MANY Blue Fairy as the puppet Master theories.

While I get that killing off theories can ruin some people’s fun, but at the same time something like that was never teased about on the show. I doubt we’ll ever see a random confirmation about Blue retaining her memories on the show itself, though. Question, would theory killers like that even be considered a spoiler if it was something that was never intended to happen?

[RumplesGirl]

Hmmm. I don’t think so. It was on quite a few boards when it happened about two weeks ago. And many people here are also on Twitter so they saw it.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MatthewPaul]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Hmmm. I don’t think so. It was on quite a few boards when it happened about two weeks ago. And many people here are also on Twitter so they saw it.

Yeah, that’s what I figured. I only asked because some people are so paranoid about spoilers that they might still have an issue with something like that. In my opinion, if something is confirmed not to have happened or will not happen it isn’t really a spoiler. A spoiler would be anything that gives something away about a future episode.

[MysteryKat25]

Yeah I think I was mostly thinking of the Jane stuff. I think the actors try harder to keep things close to the vest as possible just for fear of saying the wrong thing but they answer what they can and ignore the rest probably.

The Jane stuff confused me just because she was answering it sooo early in the episode without letting the episode play out. That’s the beauty and danger of letting a writer do the live-tweet I guess. (Confused as in not the answers but the fact she was doing that). I love her pre-episode interviews that are more teasing (much like H&K) but not so much the mid-episode stuff when it’s things that are answered in that episode. It would have made much more sense for her to say keep watching and then clarify after the episode ran for any that were still confused. Either way there’s at least the danger of that.

As for other things not episode specific sometimes it’s nice to get confirmation even if it does kill theories. (Some people get upset when anything is given positive or negative and I get that but at that point it’s not killing off a kneejerk reaction at the start of an episode that kills suspense for later in the episode. Sometimes like with the BF thing, it’s asking for clarification given the impression some have had over time and gives a new direction to theorize.)

I guess that’s the distinction I’m making…instant theory-killers within the same episode that detract from enjoying watching it play out right now vs in general clarification things about the past: notice they don’t instantly say not to think so and so might be this or that, they just clarify things we’ve seen where some stuff may have landed on the cutting room floor. The rest of the time they just tease with things like “I’d be upset if we never learned this or that.”

I absolutely love theorizing and sometimes things are helpful to steer us in the right direction, just not mid-episode when the answer will be revealed if you’re paying attention. Sometimes theorizing about stuff even if you’re dead wrong prepares you for when you do eventually see a character you thought was somebody else, or takes you off on a tangent that eventually leads you back to something that does make sense and might actually happen.

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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