Looks like a flashback?

[antbee]

This was the casting call for “Jack”, who I think is Bae/Henry’s dad

the role of [JACK] is being cast (as a “guest role with option”). He’s in his 20s or 30s, charismatic, sexy and mysterious, but also loyal and kind, and he’s running from his past in a land full of danger.

It is slightly different than the casting call for Barrett, but I figure that’s because they were trying to be more secretive about the casting of “Jack”. Heck they haven’t even announced if “Jack” has been cast or not, although I assume that MR-J is Jack, despite the fact that they’ve announced pretty much every other character who had a casting call at this point.

Also, they could be setting up Barrett to be the villain for next season, so even though he might appear to be good or at least not working directly against the good guys this season, it makes sense that they lay the groundwork this season for who the big bad or at least one of the villains is next season.

For instance, right now it’s hard to tell if there’s only one really big bad this season or a several villains, but it seems like Cora could be. Of course, we were first introduced to her last year. Hook could also be, and while we didn’t meet him last year due to copyright problems, they did lay down the groundwork for something mysterious happening to Rumple’s wife. So now we find out that either she was abducted by Hook or most likely ran off with him.

Even if he’s not a villain next year, he could play an important role that’s being set-up now without necessarily being Bae/Henry’s dad. (Although my money is on him turning out to be a future bad guy because of the very dark side part of the casting call.)

I just think that there’s too many hints for Bae and Henry’s dad not to be one and the same. There’s all the outside canon hints like the most recent People magazine Easter Egg, or about how Henry’s father maybe someone we’ve already met on the show which realistically left only Bae because no one can leave Storybrooke so that eliminated all of those characters stuck in Storybrooke, and eliminated August and that cheating husband guy in the pilot since Emma would know who the father was if she saw him again. Then, there’s the wordplay hints within the show like Emma being a bailbondsperson, and her telling Henry the lie about his dad being a fireman. If you take that further, the fire escape playing a significant part of Mysterious Man’s very short scene could then be the big clue that was given as to who the Mysterious Man is.

Of course, speaking of Mysterious Man’s apartment, there’s the parallels between last year’s opening with introducing Emma on the job and then seeing her right after work alone in her apartment in Boston, and with this year’s opening with Mysterious Man just getting off work, presumably, and then ending up alone in his apartment in NYC.

He could just be Henry’s dad, but then he’d also have to be some kind of storybook character that got out for him to have received the postcard and understand what it meant. There could be other realm jumpers out there or he found out about Storybrooke somehow without being Bae, but I think it’s a lot simpler just to have him turn out to be Bae. There’s also the symmetry that goes along with Emma being the Cursebreaker, and Bae being the one that the Curse was suppose to find. Of course, Rumple would then be related to the other core character because he’s the only one that we know of right now that isn’t related by blood, marriage, or adoption to Emma, Henry, Snow, Charming, or Regina, which seems really weird, imo, because he’s been in so many other people’s stories and they’re all connected to each other through blood, marriage, or adoption yet he’s not (at least as of yet).

[lilred]

Antbee – everything in that post is golden!

Really think Barrett is going to be Merlin – and a future villain for next season. It wouldn’t be expected for Merlin to be working against ONCE’s ‘good’ guys. Also (since it will probably occur to Rumple at some point this season that he has to ‘change’ to keep Belle, win over Baelfire, and take care of his grandson) I can see Merlin being quite an adversary for him – imagine Rumple going up against someone of equal power and intelligence? 😮

Bae is so Henry’s dad at this point, but I (who was obsessed with it over the summer) still can’t believe they put a flame on the end of Henry’s arrow (right between Rumple and Henry). Or that the ‘mysterious man’ dropped his piece of modern technology (our world) down a fire escape.

If Rumple ‘changes’ (not selflessly, but in trying to keep everyone he loves with him), and Regina ‘changes’ to try to please Henry – where have all our villains gone? And aren’t we getting ready to fight some ‘final battle’ against unknown forces???

Cora seems to be a good choice (we’ll find out tonight! 😀 ). Hook seems to be kind of a creepier like Whale – though somewhat better at seducing and not just getting a restraining order (again, we’ll find out soon). But – It feels like the show does need to restock on some ‘bad guys’!

[mujie]

@AntBee wrote:

I think it’s a lot simpler just to have him turn out to be Bae.

You’ve just single-handedly proven that he can’t be Bae. 😉

[surayya]

@mujie wrote:

@AntBee wrote:

I think it’s a lot simpler just to have him turn out to be Bae.

You’ve just single-handedly proven that he can’t be Bae. 😉

LOL, that’s what I was thinking with Emma leaving town- cant be that simple, it’s H&K after all! 😆

[Slurpeez]

A new spoiler about Emma just came out.

Once Upon a Time has knocked it out of the park so far this season! I’m SO excited! Any scoop — particularly Emma related — would be magical! (I get extra points for that, right?) — Nikki

Emma might be trapped in another land with her mom, but that’s not the only place we’ll see her this season. In an upcoming episode, we’re going to have a revealing Emma flashback that will take us back to Portland.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/08/homeland-supernatural-vampire-diaries-the-walking-dead-spoiler-room/2/

This seems to confirm the picture of Emma’s yellow bug by the Portland police car is from the episode.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[lilred]

….Portland? Huh, of all the locations linked to Emma and her backstory – Portland is a surprise. 😀

[antbee]

@Lil’Red wrote:

Antbee – everything in that post is golden!

Thanks. 😀

Really think Barrett is going to be Merlin – and a future villain for next season. It wouldn’t be expected for Merlin to be working against ONCE’s ‘good’ guys. Also (since it will probably occur to Rumple at some point this season that he has to ‘change’ to keep Belle, win over Baelfire, and take care of his grandson) I can see Merlin being quite an adversary for him – imagine Rumple going up against someone of equal power and intelligence? 😮

Quinn, Barrett, and Anita would likely fit the theme that magic is a drug that gets too easily abused in Fairy Tale Land. Of course, it seems like they might be naturally magical at least perhaps Quinn and Anita are and didn’t choose to use it like Rumple and Regina, so it will be interesting to see how that unfolds next season if that’s the direction the show is going in.

If Rumple ‘changes’ (not selflessly, but in trying to keep everyone he loves with him), and Regina ‘changes’ to try to please Henry – where have all our villains gone? And aren’t we getting ready to fight some ‘final battle’ against unknown forces???

Yes, while I’m glad that the villains are becoming layered, I do think at some point they need to stop going back to see what caused the evil because it looks like we’re going to see what caused Cora to choose the dark side, and it will turn out to be something traumatic that happened to her caused by a new character possibly her father because in the original Miller’s daughter tale, he was the one that lied about her spinning gold abilities. Then we’ll go back to see what caused that new character and on and on. It works out fine now, but eventually, I just rather have them go back to possibly the original source of this dark magic, and have that be the really big bad or something like that.

You’ve just single-handedly proven that he can’t be Bae.

LOL, well they do love to throw in their twists, but there’s been long term mysteries that I think fans have gotten right so far too. So I think it can still go either way.

For instance, August being Pinocchio is one of the major mysteries that several people got right. Even though I really wanted him to be Bae because I’ve never been a Pinocchio fan and that clouded my judgement at the time, in hindsight it seems perfectly obvious that he was Pinocchio and not Bae. The first major clue that the writers even pointed out as to who he really was him lying about lemurs being in Nepal, and why would Bae even have been connected to lemurs or Nepal. In fact, I admit I just ignored that evidence to make him fit being Bae. Then, there were all the other little clues like his leg pains. I tried to write those off as fitting the injury we saw Bae get, but yes, it really didn’t make as much sense as him turning back to wood did.

Also, now it seems to be all but confirmed that Cora was going to turn out to be the mysterious Queen of Hearts in “Hat Trick”. I know that I and several other fans had theorized that she would turn out to be the Queen of Hearts because of her name, the fact that she got so angry at Jefferson calling Regina, the Queen, that she had some kind of rivarly with Regina, and the fact that they both owned similar looking vaults.

Or the Dr. Whale theory. A lot of people have already guessed that he’s Dr. Frankenstein even before the major spoilers came out, and it looks like they are going to be right about that.

Not that fans get it right, right away, but eventually they do. So this Mysterious Man might not be Bae, but imo, since they’ve already used this trick very recently with them making us think it’s Bae and then it turns out not to be him, I don’t think they’re going to use that trick again, at least this soon. More importantly though, I think it has to be Bae just because I think that there’s other bigger mysteries that are coming up this season like what went on between Rumple and Cora or who/what caused parts of Fairy Tale Land to survive, and why some people got left there while others were brought here, to drag out the Bae mystery any longer. Plus, I don’t think they would give the season opening spot to introduce a character that wasn’t that important. Not to say that the White Rabbit or whomever that’s not Bae couldn’t be, but since the Bae mystery was one of the bigger mysteries last season and Rumple losing Bae was the whole point of the Curse in the first place, I think it’s most likely he’ll be Bae.

The potential twists can come afterwards now like if he’s Henry’s dad. Or the twist that Emma maybe the only person that can go find him. Or the twist that perhaps he’ll sneak into Storybrooke with Emma gone because then he wouldn’t get outed for not really being from Storybrooke, and Rumple still thinks he’s outside of Storybrooke.

[Slurpeez]

AntBee wrote: The potential twists can come afterwards now like if he’s Henry’s dad. Or the twist that Emma maybe the only person that can go find him. Or the twist that perhaps he’ll sneak into Storybrooke with Emma gone because then he wouldn’t get outed for not really being from Storybrooke, and Rumple still thinks he’s outside of Storybrooke.

I definitely think the writers had to find a way to take Emma out of SB for the very purpose of introducing Henry’s dad without her immediately recognizing him. They have to build up the suspense, and then when Emma returns, the big unveiling will come.

I agree with all your other points about the mystery man being Baelfire. The executive producers wouldn’t introduce him in the first scene of the season premiere unless he’s going to play a big role. Also, as you said, fans have managed to piece together puzzles like August’s identity, the QoH’s identity, and possibly Whale’s, so the ardent fans could very well do that for Baelfire’s real-world identity. We die-hard fans do tend to analyze every last shred until we’ve exhausted all viable (and even non-viable) options.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[marilou]

@Lil’Red wrote:

….Portland? Huh, of all the locations linked to Emma and her backstory – Portland is a surprise. 😀

not so much when you watched lost. Portland was where the Dharma initiative and eventually the “others” were based on the mainland.

I swear, if I see a Dharma logo anywhere in any episode, I’m gonna lose my mind.

[Phee]

@Marilou wrote:

@Lil’Red wrote:

….Portland? Huh, of all the locations linked to Emma and her backstory – Portland is a surprise. 😀

not so much when you watched lost. Portland was where the Dharma initiative and eventually the “others” were based on the mainland.

I swear, if I see a Dharma logo anywhere in any episode, I’m gonna lose my mind.

What’s Emma’s last name again? Oh, that’s right, dun dun duuuuuunnnnnn…

(For non-Lost watchers, The Swan was one of the Dharma Initiative’s facilities on the Island: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Swan)

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