Love again.

[Ziera]

[/quote] I think finally letting go of Daniel was a big step in getting her where she needs to go.[/quote]

Yep…I agree.

[Ziera]

Yeah…This episode opened her up to do a lot of different things she couldn’t do before. What do you think of her being redeemed? Do you think she even should, in reference to the fact that she is the ‘villain’ of almost the whole show?

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[melliemd]

@Ziera117 wrote:

Yeah…This episode opened her up to do a lot of different things she couldn’t do before. What do you think of her being redeemed? Do you think she even should, in reference to the fact that she is the ‘villain’ of almost the whole show?

She can be redeemed just as Rumpel can, but it needs to be a LONG LONG journey for the both of them. It’s unfair to me that they are writing Rumpel’s redemption as him actually trying and failing – but still trying – to make a change in his life while they write Regina’s as “Hey look, all these other people are the reason she raped, murdered or cursed everyone around her, she’s not a bad person. Other people -made her that way-” which is just… Disgusting, to me. She’s done terrible things and needs to take responsibility for them before she can even begin the road to redemption.

[hannah97]

I think I’m the only person that ships FireQueen. I really like the idea of Regina and Baelfire getting together after they both overcome their issues. (Because Bae is bound to have a lot of them) And I would like it even more if Bae was Henry’s dad.

[Ziera]

Hmmm…Yeah.. I see that. That is interesting. It does seem unfair a little, but I can almost see them on the same boat.
I mean, you see Rumpel’s backstory too, and see what made him ‘evil’. They both had things that happened to them that changed their course. And you see both of them now trying to change…for a loved one. (mostly.) I think there will be a lot more in their road to redemption, if these guys are planning 6 seasons as I’ve heard. But you’re right-it should take a long time.

On a different note- I think that I might come from the place that I don’t think it would be good for the show to make both of the bad peeps, Rumpel and Regina, get redeemed…unless there is a new villain that they create. Well…cora I guess.. I don’t know… I think that one of them should stay as they are. OR it could turn out that one of them lives redeemed, and the other dies in the end, redeemed right before death..saving someone good or something?

I don’t know.

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[beautyistruth]

I sort of see them in the same boat as well, but I’m getting tired of the fan reactions. I’m beginning to realize why people found the Rumple vs. Regina race to redemption battle so irritating last season, and this is coming from somebody who is pretty heavily invested in them both being redeemed in realistic ways.

One thing that bothers me is the vastly different reactions there seem to be to Regina killing that girl and Rumple killing his wife. Both were somewhat pushed and goaded into it, but ultimately both -chose- to kill the other party. Both actions were bad, to put it mildly. Regina being disappointed about Daniel staying dead doesn’t justify her ripping a random girl’s heart out. Yet people use that scene as proof of how she was a poor, manipulated girl, where they read the scene with Rumple and Milah very differently. What a shocker. They’ve both made bad choices. /Rant

Also, as far as the manipulation argument goes, Regina was manipulated and taken advantage of by Rumple, but he was manipulated by Zozo. Doesn’t absolve either of them. They’ll have to actively work for their redemption.

Also, I think it’s key to mention that the two people who push Regina’s berserk button are trapped in FTL. Snow’s not around to remind her of Daniel, and Emma’s not around to make her jealous of Henry’s affections. At this point, she’s not even sure if she’ll ever see either of them again, considering that they’re not immortal and considering how long it took Rumple to find a way into our world. We know they’ll be back, as viewers, but the characters don’t.

[obisgirl]

@Hannah97 wrote:

I think I’m the only person that ships FireQueen. I really like the idea of Regina and Baelfire getting together after they both overcome their issues. (Because Bae is bound to have a lot of them) And I would like it even more if Bae was Henry’s dad.

😮 Rumpelstiltskin would hate that soo bad.

[Ziera]

beautyistruth

True. Although…I thought that both situations were a little different.

Regina sort of gave up hope. She had once found her identity in Daniel, (in a way.) He was her love. When he was gone, she felt that there was no hope anymore for that path. So she moved down a darker one. It seemed that as Rumpel was pulling her in this direction, that Daniel was the only thing holding her back. When Rumpel removed him, she did what he wanted from her… thinking that this was the only way to find happiness again/make up for what she’d lost. But she had no reason to kill the girl. No just reason, anyway.

Rumpel seems to do all the wrong things for the right reasons. He had a right to be angry at Milah, but not one to kill her. That was his character choice– but it was coming from a place of just anger. This is what makes his character interesting. What he did was wrong, and he chose to do it, I guess that is what both have in common.

But overall, you’re right, I think.

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[Ziera]

@obisgirl wrote:

@Hannah97 wrote:

I think I’m the only person that ships FireQueen. I really like the idea of Regina and Baelfire getting together after they both overcome their issues. (Because Bae is bound to have a lot of them) And I would like it even more if Bae was Henry’s dad.

😮 Rumpelstiltskin would hate that soo bad.

Hahaha Rumpel would hate that!!

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[melliemd]

Rumpel would go like, ULTIMATE EVIL if that were to happen!

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