Love again.

[Ziera]

All hope of his redemption gone… 😆

[beautyistruth]

Also, following up on my previous comment, perhaps Regina feels like she’s sort of gotten what she wanted? Snow and Charming are separated, possibly forever, in her mind. Same for Emma and Henry. In a way, she’s gotten her revenge, even if the curse was broken. I wonder if redemption means that she’ll start helping Charming find a way to bring Emma and Snow back? That would be interesting.

[Ziera]

Well…I think that she will try and help Charming, cause Henry has made it clear he won’t like…I don’t know…want to be with her until they are back. I think that possibly Regina will be given the choice of letting go of her hate of snow and charming and focusing on Henry. I don’t know if she would go that far? It would be interesting to see

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[beautyistruth]

Duh, of course. I completely forgot about that exchange. 🙄 Nevertheless, I’m eager to see how she’ll act when Snow and Emma do find their way back!

[Ziera]

Yeah. It will be cool to see it play out! 🙂 What are your thoughts on both Regina and Rumpel being redeemed? Do you think both should be, or just one? Or neither?

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[beautyistruth]

I’d like to see both be redeemed, though I use that word rather cautiously. I don’t necessarily need them to turn into happy, saintly people who sew clothes for the poor and sing birds out of trees, and I also don’t need them to be broken people who wallow in the guilt of their past actions.

I’d like them (and for the most part all of the characters) to come to a place of peace, even if it’s not an absolutely perfect, wonderful, utopic ending. I don’t need to see one villain dragged down to the depths while everybody cheers and dances on their grave in order to feel satisfied with the ending. I tend not to see stories in terms of villains and heroes, but in terms of people who want different things who work together, against, or diagonally with each other at different points in time 🙂

I’d like Regina to put her obsessive, angry need for revenge aside, realize that she was wrong (a big one, as I don’t think I’ve really seen much of that from her yet), and develop some healthy relationships. Props to Daniel for telling her to “love again!”

I’d like Belle to lift Rumple’s curse, as I think it has some tangible affect on his free will, and I’d like him to find Bae and have some sort of closure with that, which does not necessitate that they have a big happy family with tons of step-siblings and barbecues. I don’t know how much of this stems from my shipping, and how much of it stems from what I consider a good story arc, but I want Rumple and Belle’s love to endure. This might be because I’m quite invested in the Beauty and the Beast aspect of their story, and I think that thematically, that fairytale necessitates that the Beast be redeemed by love. Additionally, they’ve thrown around the phrase “true love can break any curse” and for me to truly believe that, I want to see that it ends up being stronger than all the ramifications of Rumple’s curse and is ultimately strong enough to redeem the Dark One, which would be an amazing statement about the power of love. I would be quite sad if that storyline didn’t make it to endgame. It would diminish the “power of love” theme that the show keeps hammering on, in my mind.

I’d like him to stop needing magic as a crutch. He seems to know he’s a monster, he’s confessed that he’s a coward, and he’s expressed regret in the past, for example, in the scene with “Bae”/August. He does seem to be trying to change, but I think that he’s operated in monster-mode for so long that it’s his default reaction when he feels threatened or endangered (such as with Smee). Though, I will contend that from what we saw, he wasn’t particularly violent with Smee, who had just kidnapped and tried to mind-wipe Belle. Compared to DarkRumple who turned a man into a slug for accidentally skinning Bae’s knee, I see that as a small step forward. (My head canon says that he didn’t beat the snot out of Smee off-screen 🙂 ) I actually love the struggle they’re portraying with his character.

That is one key thing I’m missing with Regina’s arc… the closest thing we’ve gotten is the “I don’t know how to love very well” confession from her, but that doesn’t go far enough for me. Adam seemed to hint that Belle might confront Regina about locking her up and I’m -really- hoping for that confrontation. That will be a chance for Regina to show her true colors as far as her pathway to redemption!

[RumplesGirl]

Oooooh. Belle confronting Regina. Yes, please. *passes around popcorn*

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Grimmsister]

I don’t think she should get a new romantic love. After all, thing do come with a price. And as much as it pains me to say. I think Regina should stay a tragic character and not end up all flowers and butterflies, as someone put it.
Her story would still be beautiful in a sence. And I think it would be good to show that we as onlookers can have sympathy for an absolute tragic character. And that the story of a fight that cannot be won is also a beautiful story.

[melliemd]

@Beautyistruth: I agree with you completely on Regina needing to admit she was wrong. She needs to admit the horrible things she has done, and apologize for them, make them right. If she can’t even admit that she has done them, she can never be redeemed (no matter how hard the writers try :/ )

[frumpybutsupersmart]

@medchen, I totally agree about Regina not getting a romantic love. She’s only just started trying to let go of Daniel, and she’s been fixated on avenging him for decades – there’s no way she can get over that in time for the end of the season. Also, romantic love isn’t the only kind of love, and it’s great that they’ve explored that with Emma and Henry, but I’d also like for them to explore that with Regina. She should focus on fixing her relationship with Henry before anything else, since he is the only one she actually cares about.

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