Love again.

[Grimmsister]

Yes ectactly. Fix it with Henry. But also I’m thinking. Dont let the story be about her getting redeemed in the end. To me it would be much more interesting if they told it tragically. And not all of the characters should end in one big happy ending. Thats almost never good for a story.

She can still be loved, by Henry and forgiven maybe, by Snow white.

But perhabs my feelings about this will change somewhere along the road. If they could tell it in a good way. I’m not totally writing it off.

[frumpybutsupersmart]

Well, this is a reworking of fairytales, so I’m hoping for a somewhat happy ending. But there’s a lot of room for angst between now and the end of the series 😀 Maybe Regina and Emma will end up sharing custody of Henry or something, and Regina has to accept that that’s the most she can get from Henry. If she gets a love interest later on, I hope they do it well and not just ‘Hey, here’s a random guy to make you happy!’ But I trust the writers to deal with her story realistically.

[beautyistruth]

I’m hoping for nuanced, not entirely perfect endings for everybody, rather than happy endings for team good and horrible endings for team bad. That kind of conclusion tends to make me throw up a little.

[Grimmsister]

Yes nuanced I agree. But to many nuancess makes for one muddybrown mess of a pond/swanlake (sorry I think in images a lot)

Im just saying, she is at the moment the tragic figure in this story and i would prefer that story to be told to the end. Like- okay maybe a bad comparison but; Think Thelma and Louise movie- what would that have been if they hadn’t driven over the edge in the end ?

[obisgirl]

@MellieMD wrote:

@Beautyistruth: I agree with you completely on Regina needing to admit she was wrong. She needs to admit the horrible things she has done, and apologize for them, make them right. If she can’t even admit that she has done them, she can never be redeemed (no matter how hard the writers try :/ )

I hope the writers don’t try to make her redeemed by the end of the season. That would be too quick and bad writing.

@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:

@medchen, I totally agree about Regina not getting a romantic love. She’s only just started trying to let go of Daniel, and she’s been fixated on avenging him for decades – there’s no way she can get over that in time for the end of the season. Also, romantic love isn’t the only kind of love, and it’s great that they’ve explored that with Emma and Henry, but I’d also like for them to explore that with Regina. She should focus on fixing her relationship with Henry before anything else, since he is the only one she actually cares about.

yeah, it might be too soon for her to have a new love. I also don’t want her fighting with Emma again over Henry — which would certainly be inevitable when Emma gets back to Storybrooke.

[beautyistruth]

@medchen wrote:

Yes nuanced I agree. But to many nuancess makes for one muddybrown mess of a pond/swanlake (sorry I think in images a lot)

I guess by nuanced, I just mean mixed ending for everybody. Like in Wicked (musical). There are characters you sympathize with more than others but in the end, everybody gets a suitable, not completely terrible, but not perfectly happy ending either. I love endings like that.

[Ziera]

@beautyistruth wrote:

I’d like to see both be redeemed, though I use that word rather cautiously. I don’t necessarily need them to turn into happy, saintly people who sew clothes for the poor and sing birds out of trees, and I also don’t need them to be broken people who wallow in the guilt of their past actions.

I’d like them (and for the most part all of the characters) to come to a place of peace, even if it’s not an absolutely perfect, wonderful, utopic ending. I don’t need to see one villain dragged down to the depths while everybody cheers and dances on their grave in order to feel satisfied with the ending. I tend not to see stories in terms of villains and heroes, but in terms of people who want different things who work together, against, or diagonally with each other at different points in time 🙂

I’d like Regina to put her obsessive, angry need for revenge aside, realize that she was wrong (a big one, as I don’t think I’ve really seen much of that from her yet), and develop some healthy relationships. Props to Daniel for telling her to “love again!”

I’d like Belle to lift Rumple’s curse, as I think it has some tangible affect on his free will, and I’d like him to find Bae and have some sort of closure with that, which does not necessitate that they have a big happy family with tons of step-siblings and barbecues. I don’t know how much of this stems from my shipping, and how much of it stems from what I consider a good story arc, but I want Rumple and Belle’s love to endure. This might be because I’m quite invested in the Beauty and the Beast aspect of their story, and I think that thematically, that fairytale necessitates that the Beast be redeemed by love. Additionally, they’ve thrown around the phrase “true love can break any curse” and for me to truly believe that, I want to see that it ends up being stronger than all the ramifications of Rumple’s curse and is ultimately strong enough to redeem the Dark One, which would be an amazing statement about the power of love. I would be quite sad if that storyline didn’t make it to endgame. It would diminish the “power of love” theme that the show keeps hammering on, in my mind.

I’d like him to stop needing magic as a crutch. He seems to know he’s a monster, he’s confessed that he’s a coward, and he’s expressed regret in the past, for example, in the scene with “Bae”/August. He does seem to be trying to change, but I think that he’s operated in monster-mode for so long that it’s his default reaction when he feels threatened or endangered (such as with Smee). Though, I will contend that from what we saw, he wasn’t particularly violent with Smee, who had just kidnapped and tried to mind-wipe Belle. Compared to DarkRumple who turned a man into a slug for accidentally skinning Bae’s knee, I see that as a small step forward. (My head canon says that he didn’t beat the snot out of Smee off-screen 🙂 ) I actually love the struggle they’re portraying with his character.

That is one key thing I’m missing with Regina’s arc… the closest thing we’ve gotten is the “I don’t know how to love very well” confession from her, but that doesn’t go far enough for me. Adam seemed to hint that Belle might confront Regina about locking her up and I’m -really- hoping for that confrontation. That will be a chance for Regina to show her true colors as far as her pathway to redemption!

Yeah…I could agree. About a lot of that. 😉

On one note– I think that Belle and Bealfire are the only people in his life that are keeping him/a part of him sane/good. He is trying to change right now we see for belle, cause he values her love. He hasn’t opened up probably to anyone before…since like what happened with Bey. It was a step in courage to admit those things to her, and also really humbling for him too. This all gives me hope for his character to be redeemed– but he has done some horrific things.

This is on another different note:
I’m thinking when Daniel told Regina to love again, maybe this is just me…but that it meant that he wanted her to have her love back. Like I said earlier…he was her love for a while. She had kind of made it sound to herself that if she didn’t have him, she didn’t have her love either. I think that when he died he took a lot of her love, and before she let him go, he told her to ‘love again’. I don’t know…just somewhere around that she could have love again in her heart. I’m not sure if this is making any sense…hahaha. and yesh.

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