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If there was one theme of the episode it might be “love over life.” The show seems to stress that because life can end at any moment, the characters need to carpe diem, seize the day, because you never know when it will end.
Do you think this is a good theme for the show:? How might it play out for our characters who do face the continued “defeat and repeat” lifestyle?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think the message is, as is typical of OUAT, half-baked. I mean, love for whom? What sort of love? There are vast differences between the four messages of the episode: (1)”you can die anytime, and therefore carpe diem” (Emma/Hook), (2)”you have only one shot at this, so be present” (Snowing), (3)”I’d rather die than give up on the people I love” (Cinderella), and (4)”we are over, but our love for our child transcends our individual interests” (Rumple/Belle).
These different messages are all about love,yes, but they are not all love over life. In 3 of these cases, the message is about love transcending ego. Rumple and Ashley are on the “winning” side of that equation, at least for now. Snow has the right message, but Charming is not listening. And Emma is, pretty explicitly, all ego — it’s all about jealousy, and fulfilling someone else’s expectations.
I thought Snow and Charming’s end-conversation was the strongest because she’s actually encouraging him to choose life–his life, the life he has with her, the life he has with their children–all of which falls under the umbrella of love and life. I think @nevermore is right about being half-baked because I don’t think they established what it means to choose life vs what it means to choose love.
If Emma chose “life” let’s say, what exactly does that entail? She’s wouldn’t break up with Hook, she wouldn’t stop seeing Henry, Regina or her parents. What does choosing life for her even mean because her life, according to her, is her whole community which means a life full of various types of love. The show is suggesting that the type of love she needs to choose, expressly at least, is romantic love even if she ends up dying but doesn’t that ignore the many other facets of love that already exist in Emma’s life? Like Henry, Snowing, and Regina??
The line :”love over life” seems catchy and it’s something that is quotable but when you sit down and think about it, it’s really opaque and doesn’t actually make a lot of sense. To me at least.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Rumpel’s tape… Anyone else think that came across like a suicide note? It sounds like he doesn’t have hope to ever speak to his child.
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Rumpel’s tape… Anyone else think that came across like a suicide note? It sounds like he doesn’t have hope to ever speak to his child.
How twisty.
But does anyone know what the title of the poem is? Or anything about it?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Rumpel’s tape… Anyone else think that came across like a suicide note? It sounds like he doesn’t have hope to ever speak to his child.
I think it could definitely be read as a goodbye of sorts — not sure it’s a suicide note per se…
Anyway, as to where it’s from, here’s one reference:
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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