Magic attracts magic

[obisgirl]

I finally listened to the last podcast episode and I’ve had this theory for awhile after watching the last episode, even though we didn’t see Greg in Tamara’s flashbacks when she met Neal in New York, I think it’s possible Greg was in the picture long before she met Neal.

Here’s my thought.

Everyone’s been asking why Tamara is so obsessed with magic. My head cannon is that she was driven to obsession with magic because of Greg. We know why Greg’s back in Storybrooke is to find his father but Tamara probably figured out after meeting Greg, that magic attracts magic.

When I say magic attracts magic, Emma and Neal are the perfect examples of that. Neither of them knew at the time of Tallahassee that they were both from fairytale land, but they still got together and Emma ended up having Henry.

It took Greg a long time to find Storybrooke because there’s no visible entrance to it from the outside world, but Tamara being hellbent on getting magic (I’m presuming for personal gain until we know otherwise), prayed off Greg’s obsession to find the ultimate magic: Storybrooke.

[RumplesGirl]

That’s interesting. Do you think her own personal gain will clash with Greg’s agenda? I guess my head cannon is that Greg doesn’t really know what Tamara is up to, he only thinks she is equally determined to find his father. I think Tamara might turn the tables on Greg at the end of the season and show her true colors. I wonder if Greg knows about Tamara and her taser and what lengths she’s gone to to find magic.

I would agree that magic attracts magic and Neal/Emma are a perfect example.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[obisgirl]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

That’s interesting. Do you think her own personal gain will clash with Greg’s agenda?

I think it will clash.

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I guess my head cannon is that Greg doesn’t really know what Tamara is up to, he only thinks she is equally determined to find his father. I think Tamara might turn the tables on Greg at the end of the season and show her true colors.

I thought about that too.

[vilya]

I for one am hoping for the clash. While I hate Tamara (ooohhhh that’s such a strong word) I really feel sorry for Owen and what he had to go through. I believe in the end that he might be the one capable of making right choices (probably after making a lot of bad ones) but I think Tamara’s obsession goes far beyond that. But I do want Owen to find his dad.

[Demileto]

@Vilya wrote:

I for one am hoping for the clash. While I hate Tamara (ooohhhh that’s such a strong word) I really feel sorry for Owen and what he had to go through. I believe in the end that he might be the one capable of making right choices (probably after making a lot of bad ones) but I think Tamara’s obsession goes far beyond that. But I do want Owen to find his dad.

Agreed, though I wonder how hard will it be for Owen to find him. The asylum is the obvious place Kurt’d be, but not only it seems too easy an answer to Owen’s problem but it also makes the Charmings look stupid that the place is still keeping Regina’s undesirables to this date.

I’ve seen people suggesting that Regina somehow sent him to Neverland because a Disney TV cartoon set there has a character named Captain Flynn. It’s not a bad one, I guess, despite Captain Flynn not being a classic character from any story; there’s the little problem of a lack of magic to sent him there, though.

Personally, when “Selfless, Brave and True” aired I was so suprised by how malicious Tamara was that I’ve thought that, if not for the age problem, I could totally buy that Regina DID eventually let Kurt go but then she either captured or killed him in order to get Owen on her side for whatever shady plan she’s planning. Of course, since then I’ve come to believe Tamara is being backed up by a secret organization, a theory that curbs the age problem, so that’s the fate of Kurt that I’m currently investing my chips.

Then again, the show’s been so pretty simple to figure out the plotlines – Cora is the Queen of Hearts, Bae is Henry’s father, Cora killed Snow’s mom – that Kurt being in the asylum wouldn’t be a surprise at all! 😆

[Slurpeez]

@obisgirl wrote:

I finally listened to the last podcast episode and I’ve had this theory for awhile after watching the last episode, even though we didn’t see Greg in Tamara’s flashbacks when she met Neal in New York, I think it’s possible Greg was in the picture long before she met Neal.

I agree that Tamara and Owen/Greg probably go way back, perhaps even to their childhoods or young adulthoods, before Tamara ever met August or Neal.

Here’s my thought. Everyone’s been asking why Tamara is so obsessed with magic. My head cannon is that she was driven to obsession with magic because of Greg. We know why Greg’s back in Storybrooke is to find his father but Tamara probably figured out after meeting Greg, that magic attracts magic.

I think Greg and Tamara both have different reasons for wanting magic, but certainly what drew them together initially was their passion for it. I’m not sure what sparked Tamara’s interest with magic to begin with (since her passion for it probably predates Owen) but meeting Greg probably did fan the flame. Greg has been searching ever since he left SB as the little boy named Owen, and Tamara said she’d been searching for a long time, too. They probably met while they were each individually searching for magic and then became partners in their quest to find it. Owen probably told Tamara he’d been to a magical town as a child, and then Tamara might have used her enchanted taser to track down the Dragon, which led her to August, then Bae and eventually to SB. I’m still not sure what the deal is with her taser, but it certainly is no ordinary weapon. (Maybe she uses it to steal power from magical beings).

When I say magic attracts magic, Emma and Neal are the perfect examples of that. Neither of them knew at the time of Tallahassee that they were both from fairytale land, but they still got together and Emma ended up having Henry.

I think this is a really good point, but I think they’re two different cases. Whereas Greg and Tamara were drawn together by a common interest in magic, I think what drew Emma and Baelfire together probably was actual magic (since the curse was meant to find Baelfire and Emma is the savior).

It took Greg a long time to find Storybrooke because there’s no visible entrance to it from the outside world, but Tamara being hellbent on getting magic (I’m presuming for personal gain until we know otherwise), prayed off Greg’s obsession to find the ultimate magic: Storybrooke.

Yes, I agree with this thought. I think Tamara was already intent of discovering magic, and when she heard Greg’s tale of woe from childhood, she played off of his search to get what she wanted. Tamara might just be playing Owen, whereas I think Owen really fell for Tamara since she’s probably the only one who believes his story about a vanishing town.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[jbwood5]

If magic attracts magic would that explain August and Tamara’s meeting?

[Slurpeez]

@Jbwood5 wrote:

If magic attracts magic would that explain August and Tamara’s meeting?

Possibly. Tamara was searching for magic that the Dragon had but was flatly refused because she didn’t really have an ailment. Pinocchio was clearly afflicted, so Tamara left $10,000 unattended, knowing August would probably steal it, get the potion, and then she’d have the magic he wanted. So in a round about way, magic did bring them together (and then tear them asunder).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[kfchimera]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

Yes, I agree with this thought. I think Tamara was already intent of discovering magic, and when she heard Greg’s tale of woe from childhood, she played off of his search to get what she wanted. Tamara might just be playing Owen, whereas I think Owen really fell for Tamara since she’s probably the only one who believes his story about a vanishing town.

It is like an odd parallel to Corumple. She wants power, & he wants to find his dad.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[wewerecursed]

I’ve seen people suggesting that Regina somehow sent him to Neverland because a Disney TV cartoon set there has a character named Captain Flynn. It’s not a bad one, I guess, despite Captain Flynn not being a classic character from any story; there’s the little problem of a lack of magic to sent him there, though.

That’s an interesting thought, but how could she have done that? She didn’t have a whole lot of magic and I can’t imagine her using what little she brought back with her (remember she had to give up her magic ring just to get that apple) to send Kurt to NL instead of just locking him up or killing him.

Agreed, though I wonder how hard will it be for Owen to find him. The asylum is the obvious place Kurt’d be, but not only it seems too easy an answer to Owen’s problem but it also makes the Charmings look stupid that the place is still keeping Regina’s undesirables to this date.

Yeah, it’s the obvious place, and no one seems to have acknowledged its existence. I’m assuming that only Regina, Nurse Ratchet, Jefferson, Belle and Rumple know it’s even there. I totally agree though that the Charmings are going to look like idiots if it’s revealed there’s still people down there. “Hey look! I found Sidney!!!” 😆

I’m curious to know, if Kurt is alive and still in SB, did he age? Henry aged but he didn’t come till much later, so it may be possible that since Kurt was there when the curse hit and didn’t escape like Owen he never aged. I kind of what this to be the case, because I liked the guy who played Kurt!

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