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April 24, 2013 at 2:28 am #136637TheWatcherParticipant
Could it be that wand Robin Hood stole was the same wand Rumpel took from Cinderella’s godmother? Depending on the chronology it can be after Rump had gotten it from the fairy that RH had stolen it, or maybe Rumpel decided to go after the wand again some years later and found out it had made it’s way to said fairy.
I say this because Rump had been looking for that fairy for some unspecified reason and retrieving a stolen object sounds pretty plausible to me.
Any thoughts?
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 24, 2013 at 2:34 am #188247jbwood5ParticipantIt must be the same wand. I feel that is how Robin Hood knew tht Rumple was in possession of it. I think Maid Marian has a relationship with the fairy god mother (sister, daughter, fairy godchild) and that she knew when she got sick that it was the only way to save their child (who I believe is Tamara). Plus we haven’t seen Rumple get that wand back. So I think we need to see that plus if Tamara is their child we can see why she is so close to her grandmother.
April 24, 2013 at 2:38 am #188250HappyEndingsSpectatorThere is a complete discussion of this on this thread 😀 Start on page 2.
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=3694
April 24, 2013 at 2:44 am #188251RumplesGirlKeymaster^ beware, that link goes to a spoiler thread for 220!
Here’s the basic rundown for those who don’t want to be spoiled for 220.
Yes, it’s probably the Fairy Godmother’s Wand. This is how we THINK it works (this has taken a few days and lots of coffee and frustration)
1) Rumple stole the wand from the Fairy Godmother before he brought Belle to the castle.
2) The Fairy Godmother asked Robin Hood, the best thief in the land to get the wand back. She enchanted his bow with fairy dust to make it magic and promised him that if he returned her wand, he could use it to heal Marian and then she would send RH and Marian to another world.
3) Robin does this
4) Rumple then resteals the wand in Price of gold by killing the Fairy Godmother"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 24, 2013 at 2:47 am #188252HappyEndingsSpectatorExcept I don’t go with this theory. 🙂
April 24, 2013 at 2:48 am #188253RumplesGirlKeymasterYes, I should add that this theory was eventually agreed upon by some because it made our brains hurt less. 😆 There is still a lot of debate.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 24, 2013 at 4:33 am #188281kfchimeraParticipantI kind of just read that discussion, so this was how I would sum it up if you don’t want to risk being spoiled. Someone put up pictures, and people realized the wands really do look the same. Yet that created timeline issues–how long was Belle in the castle, when did Cinderella go tot the ball versus marry Thomas etc…. That was where the headaches came in. So if you didn’t like this theory there are 2 others:
1) It is not the same wand, just looks the same because standard prop, and only Blue the master fairy has a different wand
2) It is the same wand, but more time passed between the events than we originally thought, and Cinderella and Thomas took years to get married from when they met and we first see Rumpel acquire the wand. Then somehow he got it back from Robin as part of the curse in SB just like all the other random stuff in his shop (like Snow’s crown ) got there.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
April 24, 2013 at 4:55 am #188286PheeParticipantHaven’t checked the other thread yet today, but I was almost scared to click on this one to see how far the debate has migrated to the open forum. 😛
If it is indeed the same wand, (and it does look identical), I think Rumple has to have stolen it two separate times, otherwise the timeline won’t work.
Assuming Cinderella and Thomas were married soon after they met, (which is a safe bet, because FTL courtships and engagements don’t typically last for years), if Rumple only stole the wand that one time, there’s no way that Belle could have been imprisoned by Regina for any great length of time, (certainly not the speculated 3.5 years), because she was at Rumple’s place when he had the wand that we saw him steal on the day that Cinderella and Thomas met, which was maybe a year at most before Curse Day.
If Rumple only had that wand in his possession one time, that means he didn’t meet Belle until after he met Cinderella, which doesn’t work…
After leaving Rumple, Belle met Dreamy…
Snow never knew Dreamy, she only met him once he was Grumpy…
Snow was about 4 weeks pregnant at Cinderella’s wedding (per a tweet from Adam), so that wedding was only about 8 months before curse day…So all the stuff with Snowing meeting, being separated, coming back together, and getting married, all happened before Rumple stole the wand on the day he met Cinderella. And because Snow knew Grumpy as Grumpy, the Snowing drama came after Belle had left Rumple and met Dreamy.
If, as RumplesGirl suggests, Rumple originally stole the wand some years earlier, then the fairy godmother sent Robin to steal it back, then Rumple stole it again, (this time blowing up the fairy godmother to ensure she couldn’t steal it back from him again), that pretty much solves any timeline issues and confusion. So that’s what I’m sticking with.
April 24, 2013 at 12:45 pm #188320RumplesGirlKeymasterIf, as RumplesGirl suggests, Rumple originally stole the wand some years earlier, then the fairy godmother sent Robin to steal it back, then Rumple stole it again, (this time blowing up the fairy godmother to ensure she couldn’t steal it back from him again), that pretty much solves any timeline issues and confusion. So that’s what I’m sticking with.
Yes. There is also now the new twist (I think it was KFC who proposed it) that perhaps Rumple and the FGM made a deal for the wand, since that fits better with Rumple’s MO.
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