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Ok, I had some problems with this episode – mainly because it seemed to directly contradict OUAT mythology, and had some serious plot holes. Any feedback would be welcome.
Cannon Issues
– Way back in “The Thing You Love The Most” (S1E2) Regina goes to visit Maleficent. We find out that Regina traded Maleficent the Dark Curse in exchange for the sleeping curse she wanted to use on Snow White. Now she wants it back saying to Maleficent that it was “undone by a simple kiss.” Maleficent counters something to the effect of: “I got over it, so will you.”
This SERIOUSLY implies that Sleeping Beauty woke up sometime between when Snow White ate the apple and was woken up. Or at the very least, sometime before Snow woke up. In “Broken” Sleeping Beauty does not wake up until 28 years after the Dark Curse is broken.
???????
Other plot holes:
– Mulan accuses Emma and Snow of being responsible for bringing the Wrath that killed Phillip. However, the Wrath attacked them in FTL BEFORE Rumple summoned it to Storybrooke.
– If there was only one Wrath (as the SB and FTL stories were happening concurrently) how did both Rumple AND Aurora have the Wrath’s medallion?
[adrotate group="5"]@Ariel wrote:
Ok, I had some problems with this episode – mainly because it seemed to directly contradict OUAT mythology, and had some serious plot holes. Any feedback would be welcome.
Cannon Issues
– Way back in “The Thing You Love The Most” (S1E2) Regina goes to visit Maleficent. We find out that Regina traded Maleficent the Dark Curse in exchange for the sleeping curse she wanted to use on Snow White. Now she wants it back saying to Maleficent that it was “undone by a simple kiss.” Maleficent counters something to the effect of: “I got over it, so will you.”
This SERIOUSLY implies that Sleeping Beauty woke up sometime between when Snow White ate the apple and was woken up. Or at the very least, sometime before Snow woke up. In “Broken” Sleeping Beauty does not wake up until 28 years after the Dark Curse is broken.
???????
Other plot holes:
– Mulan accuses Emma and Snow of being responsible for bringing the Wrath that killed Phillip. However, the Wrath attacked them in FTL BEFORE Rumple summoned it to Storybrooke.
– If there was only one Wrath (as the SB and FTL stories were happening concurrently) how did both Rumple AND Aurora have the Wrath’s medallion?
Yeah the whole Maleficent thing really bothered me too as soon as I found out it wasn’t in the past. Then again, I’ve begun to accept that anything they say in the first few episodes of season one can’t really be counted as cannon. For example, Snow saying that “she poisoned an apple because she thought I was prettier than her.”
My explanation for the wraiths… all I can say is that there must be more than one wraith. As for why Mulan blames Emma and Snow… I’m waiting for the next episode.
The medallion thing was driving me crazy! Again, I can only say there’s more than one wraith.
I agree with the inconsistency of the Sleeping curse.
However, I have a theory about the medallions.
There’s nothing to say that the timeline that we saw everything happening was in sync with the each other. So, they could have had the wraith be sent through the hat with Emma and M.M. to FTL and once the wraith was “released” (When Mulan walked towards the building where she later found Emma and MM) the wrath sensed Prince Phillip’s mark and no longer cared about Regina’s mark because that was in another world. But one it took Prince Phillip’s soul, it’s hunger was “sated” and it’s call and beckon from Mr. Gold was finished. thus, sending it into the Medallion again. why there was two medallion’s in each world. That’s the part I can’t quite figure out. Perhaps another portal of a sort?
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
Oh, that’s true. I hadn’t taken that in to consideration.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
Oh my goodness! I missed that line! That would clear everything up! But then who put this girl into the sleeping coma?
@Aslan4king wrote:
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
Oh my goodness! I missed that line! That would clear everything up! But then who put this girl into the sleeping coma?
I would still say Maleficent, since Aurora did mention her when she first woke up.
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
That’s Right!!! She did mention that Maleficent had come after her and her mother! That would be a neater fit to this whole story!
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
That’s the conclusion I reached as well- other wise it makes no sense at all :/
The amulet (if that the right word to use as it doesnt seem to protect against, but cause danger/evil to the one who holds it), I’m not sure on – I hope it’s explained in the next ep tho 😐
One thing I did catch having just watched S01E21 & 22 just prior to watching S2, was Regina didn’t think FTL had been destroyed, if she had, she wouldn’t have told Jefferson she needed to go back there for something, as it was she was able to pull an apple from FTL past …. I think/am HOPING!!! (because I want them all to return to their world by the end & live happily ever after lol 😉 ) Is that FTL will need to be ‘repaired/made whole’ again somehow.
@Surayya wrote:
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
That’s the conclusion I reached as well- other wise it makes no sense at all :/
The amulet (if that the right word to use as it doesnt seem to protect against, but cause danger/evil to the one who holds it), I’m not sure on – I hope it’s explained in the next ep tho 😐
One thing I did catch having just watched S01E21 & 22 just prior to watching S2, was Regina didn’t think FTL had been destroyed, if she had, she wouldn’t have told Jefferson she needed to go back there for something, as it was she was able to pull an apple from FTL past …. I think/am HOPING!!! (because I want them all to return to their world by the end & live happily ever after lol 😉 ) Is that FTL will need to be ‘repaired/made whole’ again somehow.
Maybe Emma will be the key to bringing this about. She does seem to have magic, at least in our world, and I would way it fits her role as the savior. Restoring a world would take a lot of magic. The only question is, what kind of price would something like that have?
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