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@steliokontos1 wrote:
@TimeSpacer wrote:
I’m guessing that in “The Thing You Love Most” Regina may not have been referring to the Aurora we saw in “Broken”. Regina only referred to “…that sleeping beauty [who] got the best of you.” Aurora’s statement about Maleficent’s conflict with her mother makes me think that the “sleeping beauty” Regina referred to may have been Aurora’s mother.
That’s Right!!! She did mention that Maleficent had come after her and her mother! That would be a neater fit to this whole story!
It would make sense for the timeline of the story. Sleeping Beauty was first referred to before the curse was cast, and the events taking place now are happening after the curse was cast, because the current Sleeping Beauty and Mulan knew about Regina and her curse. The only thing that makes sense would be that Aurora’s mother is the original Sleeping Beauty, and Maleficent has some kind of grudge against both mother and daughter-similar to Regina’s situation with Snow White and Emma.
[adrotate group="5"]I think this will clear all the problems up:
It was Aurora’s mother they were talking about.
When Rumpelstiltskin summoned the wraith, he gave it the amulet. It had it around its neck. When Emma, Mary Margaret, and the wraith were sucked into FTL, the amulet either fell or was cut off his neck. It was the same wraith. Philip was marked by it, and the wraith, being a world away from Regina, went after Philip. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t his soul get sucked into the amulet. I remember thinking that, but I can’t picture it. If that’s the case it would explain why the wraith had the amulet.
Also, I think the hat has the ability to change not only space, but time, which is how they were able to get the apple.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t his soul get sucked into the amulet. I remember thinking that, but I can’t picture it. If that’s the case it would explain why the wraith had the amulet.
Yes, Phillip’s soul did get stored in the amulet. Eddy and Adam remarked in a post-premiere interview that they didn’t see him die, but that someone will have to retrieve the soul if he’s to survive.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Sounds like we’re cleared up on Aurora’s mother was the original “sleeping beauty.”
@Ariel wrote:
Other plot holes:
– Mulan accuses Emma and Snow of being responsible for bringing the Wrath that killed Phillip. However, the Wrath attacked them in FTL BEFORE Rumple summoned it to Storybrooke.
– If there was only one Wrath (as the SB and FTL stories were happening concurrently) how did both Rumple AND Aurora have the Wrath’s medallion?
Did you hear our initial reactions podcast? We realized that FTL and SB are, once again, not parallel with each other, their sequential. Rip all the FTL scenes out of the episode and place them AFTER the Storybrooke scenes. Now it makes sense:
- SB: The wraith wears the medallion after Gold summoned it.
- FTL: Prince Philip and Mulan find Aurora.
- SB: The wraith gets sucked into the hat, taking Emma and Snow with it.
- FTL: Mulan senses a disturbance and then the Wraith, Snow, and Emma break through the ground. But Emma and Snow are unconscious.
- FTL: Everything else happens in FTL, and after a day, they come back to the castle and find Snow and Emma.
Although – why would Maleficent have given Regina a sleeping curse they both knew could be broken with a kiss? Check it out:
– If THE Sleeping Beauty was Aurora’s mother – that means she would have been woken up long enough before the curse to have at least a teenage daughter by the time the curse was enacted. We don’t know exactly how much time elapsed between Snow being woken up and the wedding, but based on the fact that Snow and Charming look the same, it couldn’t have been more than a couple of years. This means that Snow and Aurora must be at least around the same age when the curse was enacted (give or take a bit). Therefore Aurora’s mother would have woken up long before Regina made the trade with Maleficent for the sleeping curse – meaning both of them would have known it could be broken with a kiss.
– On a side note – in “The Thing You Loved The Most” Maleficent said she “got over” Sleeping Beauty waking up. If she later went after her daughter – not so over it…
I wrote elsewhere that I am beginning to think that when magic is used in Storybook, that it also has an effect on what remains of Fairytale Land. I wonder if Gold accidentally summoned the wraths to FTL when he summoned them to SB . I also wonder if there is a time difference in the two. I swear Sleeping Beauty was informed that she was only asleep for one year. Also how did Gold get the same medallion. Speaking of the medallion, the symbol looks like the “One Ring” symbol from J. R. R. Tolkien’s Series. (I also wrote about this elsewhere) The also stated that the other worlds merged into the remaining slice of FTL. A nod to Tolkien would be pretty cool. Who is protecting the remaining slice of FTL? Any theories?
I wrote elsewhere that I am beginning to think that when magic is used in Storybook, that it also has an effect on what remains of Fairytale Land. I wonder if Gold accidentally summoned the wraths to FTL when he summoned them to SB . I also wonder if there is a time difference in the two. I swear Sleeping Beauty was informed that she was only asleep for one year. Also how did Gold get the same medallion. Speaking of the medallion, the symbol looks like the “One Ring” symbol from J. R. R. Tolkien’s Series. (I also wrote about this elsewhere) The also stated that the other worlds merged into the remaining slice of FTL. A nod to Tolkien would be pretty cool. Who is protecting the remaining slice of FTL? Any theories?
@Kalliope ;;
When you say the ‘one ring symbol’ are you referring to the Elvish markings on the ring that have been translated from Black Speech ( the language of Mordor) ? I’m not quite sure what you mean by that statement.@ cruel_fortuna. Its actualy the J. R. R. Tolkien symbol to be exact.
Also… I swear there are more than one warith in FTL and that several other people were marked.
@KalliopeKisees : That symbol is written in Tengwar, right?
Hm… I’ll have to go back & meticulously watch the episode but I’m pretty sure there is only one.
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