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November 17, 2013 at 10:17 pm #224583RumplesGirlKeymaster
Malcolm never matured, never took responsibility. And after several hundred years as Peter Pan, he hasn’t had to either. Now he’s just a horrible little boy – mean, petty, manipulative.
Yeah he got worse as Peter Pan. He claimed to care about Rumple in the final scene at Skull Rock, but all he has been doing is torturing Rumple with mindgames and tricks.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 17, 2013 at 10:18 pm #224584rumbelledearieParticipantRumplesGirl wrote: But man, for someone who claims that he was giving his son a better life, Malcolm is really horrible. Truly horrible. Trying to take Baelfire, kidnapping Henry, all the taunts to Rumple. Sending him the doll. UGH.
I know. Douchebag. An epic one at that. Malcolm never matured, never took responsibility. And after several hundred years as Peter Pan, he hasn’t had to either. Now he’s just a horrible little boy – mean, petty, manipulative. Ugh indeed.
He’s horrible. I have to go back and watch 304 now – that speech that PP gave to Rumple in the flashback when the boys are dancing. Doesn’t he tell Rumple he’s worthless and Bae would never choose him and stuff like that? We now know that’s Rumple’s father saying those things! So awful. And Robbie plays it so well too.
November 17, 2013 at 11:23 pm #224610PheeParticipantCount me as another one who was staunchly TeamBrothers, but ended up liking the way they did PapaPan.
The main reason the theory wasn’t working for me was that I couldn’t figure how Malcolm could de-age, tie himself to NL, have that sever the father/son relationship, but still have Malcolm keep his memories, and still have Rumple recognise Pan as someone he’d known as a child. But they answered all of that by having it happen in NL, and having Rumple see him transform.
I’d also been stumped as to why Malcolm would have changed his name to Peter Pan, but they covered that as well, when he took the name of Rumple’s doll.
Malcolm really is a piece of work, all these years later, and he’s still just as selfish as ever, still with no regard for the life of his own family.
Loved how they had things in the Malcolm/Rumple relationship parallel things that happened between Rumple/Bae. Adds a whole new layer of anguish to what Rumple’s been through.
November 17, 2013 at 11:29 pm #224611tabsicleParticipantMalcolm = Worse father in all the realms I admit I was on the fence with this as soon as people started predicting Pan was Rumple’s dad. It did play out well…but I’m still kinda disappointed. I don’t know why it just feels like it lessens Peter Pan as a character when he was so epic in the previous episodes. Am I the only one that feels this way?
I feel the exact same way.
Time to hide your crazy, and start acting like a lady.
November 18, 2013 at 12:42 am #224641GaultheriaParticipantI have more sympathy for Rumpel’s fierce overprotectiveness of young Bae now.
Prediction for upcoming plot developments: Pan’s shadow has been running its own con game on Malcolm, and the white hats will have to save Pan to save Rumpel to save Henry and David.
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November 18, 2013 at 12:49 am #224643Killian JonesParticipantAfter this episode Peter Pan is just so much more evil, as Malcolm he was a jerk and treated Rumple like a burden. He was so obsessed with being a boy again and having no responsibility. He even talked about why he wants to fly to be alone without Rumple basically. It really made me understand the root of who Peter Pan is he was a selfish adult who is now that same person in a younger body. He selfishly abandoned Rumple and now selfishly sacrificed Henry.
November 18, 2013 at 12:54 am #224645darkones1fanParticipantAll I have to say is this Peter Pan was not a man who became a powerful monster….He’s a monster who became powerful
November 18, 2013 at 12:55 am #224646RumplesGirlKeymasterI have more sympathy for Rumpel’s fierce overprotectiveness of young Bae now.
I agree. And it makes the portal scene in “The Return” that much more heartbreaking. Rumple became his father when presented with power and what he thought he wanted and then let go of his son’s hand, just like his papa had let go of his.
After this episode Peter Pan is just so much more evil, as Malcolm he was a jerk and treated Rumple like a burden. He was so obsessed with being a boy again and having no responsibility. He even talked about why he wants to fly to be alone without Rumple basically. It really made me understand the root of who Peter Pan is he was a selfish adult who is now that same person in a younger body. He selfishly abandoned Rumple and now selfishly sacrificed Henry.
I think you said this elsewhere, but this may be the first time that a villain on ONCE gets a backstory that doesn’t really elicit sympathy but rather only makes me hate him even more.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 12:57 am #224647theeviloneParticipantI honestly love that it turned out to be DaddyPan, one of my theories finally came true. It just makes me so sad though, can you imagine how much pain Rumple has gone through. 300 years of serious traumatizing damage, our Lady Belle has really got her job cut out for her… jeez. 300 years of believing that no one could ever love him and starting since his childhood, no wonder he is clinging to poor Baelfire for dear life, and now he is stuck in a box. Rumple has to get a happy ending with Belle, his son and his gigantic mess of a family, he has to or the creators just emotionally tortured a character for no reason.
Oh and yeah Malcolm/Peter Pan is definately the worst character ever, though Milah definitely follows close behind. Even so, though I hate the character I truly love Robbie Kay’s acting, he is a really good actor. When the shadow took Rumple and Peter Pan was watching him go, I truly believed it was a father watching his son be taken away.
November 18, 2013 at 12:58 am #224648Killian JonesParticipantStelio Kontos wrote: After this episode Peter Pan is just so much more evil, as Malcolm he was a jerk and treated Rumple like a burden. He was so obsessed with being a boy again and having no responsibility. He even talked about why he wants to fly to be alone without Rumple basically. It really made me understand the root of who Peter Pan is he was a selfish adult who is now that same person in a younger body. He selfishly abandoned Rumple and now selfishly sacrificed Henry.
I think you said this elsewhere, but this may be the first time that a villain on ONCE gets a backstory that doesn’t really elicit sympathy but rather only makes me hate him even more.
I probably did it’s one of my big takeaways lol
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