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November 18, 2013 at 1:00 am #224649RumplesGirlKeymaster
honestly love that it turned out to be DaddyPan, one of my theories finally came true. It just makes me so sad though, can you imagine how much pain Rumple has gone through. 300 years of serious traumatizing damage, our Lady Belle has really got her job cut out for her… jeez. 300 years of believing that no one could ever love him and starting since his childhood, no wonder he is clinging to poor Baelfire for dear life, and now he is stuck in a box. Rumple has to get a happy ending with Belle, his son and his gigantic mess of a family, he has to or the creators just emotionally tortured a character for no reason.
I know. Every backstory of Rumple’s just squeezes the heart even more.
Congrats on your theory coming true!
Even so, though I hate the character I truly love Robbie Kay’s acting, he is a really good actor. When the shadow took Rumple and Peter Pan was watching him go, I truly believed it was a father watching his son be taken away.
Robbie is incredible. It takes serious acting chops to go up against Bobby Carlyle in which you are supposed to be playing a deaged father. I mean..wow. That final scene between the two of them at Skull Rock when PP put Rumple in the box. DANG
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 1:20 am #224657schaendlichParticipantAm I the only person who realized that Rumpelstiltskin might have gotten his high pitched giggle from his father?
November 18, 2013 at 2:42 am #224672MatthewPaulModeratorAm I the only person who realized that Rumpelstiltskin might have gotten his high pitched giggle from his father?
Nope. Myself and others noticed too. Here’s another creepy similarity between Rumple and Pan/Malcolm…both of them have contemplated with the idea of killing Henry for the sake of self preservation. Rumple attempted it as a way to cheat faith, and Pan is doing so to keep himself young and immortal. Of course Rumple differs from Pan in that he has put his temptation for self preservation aside for the sake of protecting his grandson and honoring Baelfire. Rumple is showing signs of change and redemption, while his father continues his own “nasty habits.”
November 18, 2013 at 2:50 am #224674kfchimeraParticipantSo is the boxing of Rumple his undoing?
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 18, 2013 at 5:43 am #224681swanning-offParticipantSo is the boxing of Rumple his undoing?
I’m wondering that too. It may not be a death, but a boxing – with the issue that we don’t know if Neal or the others will let him out. not withstanding the spoilers that we know he will and he does!
November 18, 2013 at 6:14 am #224686MatthewPaulModeratorJust had an idea. What if Rumple’s Dark One persona is modeled after Malcolm? You have the laugh, the speech mannerisms, and even some of the Dark One’s outfits are similar to Malcolm’s. My hypothesis is that Rumple did this because he wants the Dark One to resemble the thing he fears most.
November 18, 2013 at 6:28 am #224689PheeParticipantI definitely think that Rumple consciously incorporated traits of his father into his Dark One persona. We know that he makes magic by tapping into the anger, and it probably makes it all the easier to tap into it when you adopt traits of the person you hate the most. Was he at all giggly before Bae went down the beanhole? Off the top of my head, I’m wanting to say that he wasn’t, that he only started doing that post-beanhole. It’d make a lot of sense for him to have started laughing like his father after the incident when he’d repeated his father’s most emotionally destructive mistake.
November 18, 2013 at 6:33 am #224690PriceofMagicParticipantJust had an idea. What if Rumple’s Dark One persona is modeled after Malcolm? You have the laugh, the speech mannerisms, and even some of the Dark One’s outfits are similar to Malcolm’s. My hypothesis is that Rumple did this because he wants the Dark One to resemble the thing he fears most.
Like Batman?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 18, 2013 at 6:40 am #224692PriceofMagicParticipantUnpopular opinion here but I actually like Malcolm more than Milah.
Malcolm actually did care for Rumple up to the point where he changed into Peter Pan. Malcolm may not have been the best of fathers, but I don’t think he was the worst we’ve seen so far. As Peter Pan however, he is a very nasty piece of work. So Peter Pan is the worst father, Malcolm isn’t.
Malcolm never made Rumple feel like less than nothing which Milah did. Whilst Malcolm may have had selfish motivations for doing things, like leaving Rumple at the spinsters, it was the best thing for Rumple in a way because the spinsters took care of him and Malcolm recognised that Rumple would be better off without him. Milah took Rumple’s self-esteem and crushed it into dust.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 18, 2013 at 8:41 am #224699RumplesGirlKeymasterSo is the boxing of Rumple his undoing?
I personally don’t think so. I think that is going to be later. I think the “undoing” is by steps and this was the first one
I definitely think that Rumple consciously incorporated traits of his father into his Dark One persona. We know that he makes magic by tapping into the anger, and it probably makes it all the easier to tap into it when you adopt traits of the person you hate the most. Was he at all giggly before Bae went down the beanhole? Off the top of my head, I’m wanting to say that he wasn’t, that he only started doing that post-beanhole. It’d make a lot of sense for him to have started laughing like his father after the incident when he’d repeated his father’s most emotionally destructive mistake.
Agreed.
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