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April 24, 2015 at 3:48 pm #302539AidenXJeffreyParticipant
Oh, and with the Emma/Cruella incident, it was the physical fall that killed her, not the magic itself. The pavement that broke her fall and the impact is what killed her, and other accounts, Regina in 3X06, snapped a guard’s neck, a physical, plausible affliction but it was executed by magic and Rumple has done the same. Any other time they killed was the heart-crush combo, if you will. Oh, in 1×19, Rumple turned the random gentleman into a snail, but physically crushed him afterward for the whole village to see. Any time they used magic to kill someone, it caused a physical affliction, a plausible physical affliction, it was never just dissolving someone in thin air or turning them into a pillar of ash, which is what Jafar did in 1×02 of Wonderland, Trust Me. There was always a physical response that anyone could afflict that caused their victims’ demise. Remember back in season one, Snow got Dark Fairy Dust and used it against the trolls and one was physically crushed under Charming’s boot, but of course in 3×22, Regina does this instead. She used magic to transform them, but caused a physical affliction that anyone could do. With Ingrid and Helga, that was forgiven because it caused a somewhat plausible response to Helga’s body because we could die from frostbite or hypothermia. I think my biggest issue with this was that Zelena just waved her hand and she dissolved which is not something anyone could just do, otherwise Snow would have been dissolved ages ago, and the same for Hook with Rumple.
Also, Zelena had ZERO magic when Rumple stabbed her in that jail cell. In 3×20 Kansas, Glinda gave her that Pendant and told her if it is removed she loses her powers and is rendered powerless, essentially. Later, we saw Regina remove it and she was rendered powerless. There is no way her life-force could have left unless she had something on her that could make that possible of if someone else who was watching unbeknownst to both of them who caused her life-force to leave her body and return to her pendant. If that wasn’t the case, then why set up this plot of her being powerless from that point forward if her pendant is removed? There’s no way all of this could have taken place with her leaving her body, returning to her pendant, and opening the portal unless there was someone else involved with her being able to do so, which could greater explain this confusing reveal. I do like that she’s back, but I do hope there’s more of an explanation for her return because I’m confused a little bit lol.
[adrotate group="5"]April 24, 2015 at 3:53 pm #302541RumplesGirlKeymasterI think my biggest issue with this was that Zelena just waved her hand and she dissolved which is not something anyone could just do, otherwise Snow would have been dissolved ages ago, and the same for Hook with Rumple.
You seem to be under the impression that the writers of this show follow any sort of internal logic and world building.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 24, 2015 at 4:01 pm #302545AidenXJeffreyParticipantOk, I just looked up the clip of Cora telling the laws of magic to And she mentioned three, so the fourth one IS only applied to the Genies. Well, darn. I feel crunchy and sad. R.I.P. Marian.
April 24, 2015 at 4:05 pm #302547AidenXJeffreyParticipantOk, I just looked up the clip of Cora telling the laws of magic to And she mentioned three, so the fourth one IS only applied to the Genies. Well, darn. I feel crunchy and sad. R.I.P. Marian.
To Ana and she mentioned three. Sorry for the typo. 🙂
April 24, 2015 at 4:30 pm #302549TheWatcherParticipantOk, I just looked up the clip of Cora telling the laws of magic to And she mentioned three, so the fourth one IS only applied to the Genies. Well, darn. I feel crunchy and sad. R.I.P. Marian.
I literally came back here to report that as well 😛 the only people who ever mentioned not being able to kill with magic are Cyrus and Sidney, both of whom were genies
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Aside from saying that she would be powerless without it, Glinda also phrased things as “In some ways, it IS your life now.” Or something to that effect. By separating the two, the heroes made it possible for Zelena to come back…or, you know, PLOT.
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April 24, 2015 at 5:23 pm #302552RumplesGirlKeymasteror, you know, PLOT.
I mean the sooner we all accept this as a legit answer on this show, the better our lives will be.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 24, 2015 at 5:29 pm #302553obisgirlParticipantYup.
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