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TVLine: Matt's Inside Line 2/16 – Robin Hood and Lily

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Four › General S4 spoilers › TVLine: Matt's Inside Line 2/16 – Robin Hood and Lily

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  • February 16, 2015 at 10:58 pm #296121
    Phee
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    Guys honestly…I think we need to be prepared for a retcon—I think the writers are banking on the majority of their audience not questioning this like we are. They are hoping the audience won’t remember Belle not questioning who RH was or that Marian recognzied both me as RH right away

    Which is contradictory in itself because they want to explain why Tom Ellis Robin Hood became Sean Maguire Robin Hood, which seems like something they’re only addressing because of people who actually remember Tom Ellis Robin Hood. Wouldn’t casual viewers not give that a second thought? So if they are banking on the audience not remembering past details, why try to explain a past detail in the first place?

    Yeah, it just doesn’t compute.

    If they insisted on explaining it, I’d be fine with him having temporarily disguised himself when he broke into Rumple’s castle, so that if he were captured/killed, he couldn’t be recognised and tied back to Marian and the Merry Men and get them in trouble too. If not for the fact that Belle recognised him, though.

    They should just leave it alone.

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    February 16, 2015 at 11:39 pm #296125
    Keb
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    This could be really messed up…but since RH’s character was so killed for me in S4A I was practically headcanoning that the two were different men anyway…

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    February 17, 2015 at 2:17 am #296132
    onceaholic
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    I am probably over-reaching, but one of King Arthur’s Knights of the Round table, Ywain/Owain, was associated with the lion.

    I am wondering whether Robin Hood is just a label given to a man who assumes this role, and that ”Robin Hood”/Sean Macguire has a real name that is different, like Ywain. Or maybe he is a descendant of Ywain.

    The tattoo could also refer to King Richard, but I am looking for any reason to include the reincarnation of Arthur (”he will appear again when his people need him the most” etc) Morgana and Merlin at the moment haha.

    (I also would like to see Regina and Merlin (or Arthur) to be end game hahaha).

    (This idea would also mean that ”Robin Hood” had been lying to Regina about his real identity ;(  )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ywain

     

     

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    February 17, 2015 at 6:26 am #296138
    PriceofMagic
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    There is no way they can explain away the recast in-show without screwing something up. Belle and Marian have acknowledged Sean Maguire as the Tom Ellis Robin. Sean Maguire Robin is around chronologically before Tom Ellis Robin. Fans have accepted Robin was recast, the casual audience aren’t that bothered, why try and fix something that isn’t broken?

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    February 17, 2015 at 9:07 am #296144
    RumplesGirl
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    There is no way they can explain away the recast in-show without screwing something up. Belle and Marian have acknowledged Sean Maguire as the Tom Ellis Robin. Sean Maguire Robin is around chronologically before Tom Ellis Robin. Fans have accepted Robin was recast, the casual audience aren’t that bothered, why try and fix something that isn’t broken?

    It’s like they are answering a fandom question that really deserves a TV explanation instead of an in-show one. They don’t want to say, “we didn’t think about RH and Regina being soul mates until in between S2 and S3 and by the time we came up with it Ellis was booked for other things.” That’s a perfectly fine explanation; there is nothing wrong with saying the OQ ship wasn’t planned from the very start but grew like so many ideas do. But now it looks like they are going to really screw something up.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 17, 2015 at 11:01 am #296151
    obisgirl
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    There is no way they can explain away the recast in-show without screwing something up. Belle and Marian have acknowledged Sean Maguire as the Tom Ellis Robin. Sean Maguire Robin is around chronologically before Tom Ellis Robin. Fans have accepted Robin was recast, the casual audience aren’t that bothered, why try and fix something that isn’t broken?

    I agree.  It’s just going to further confuse the audience and make them question Tinkerbell’s pixie dust magic pointing to OQ as being soulmates/possible true love, when there’s this alternate Robin Hood.  It was a recast. We know it was a recast.  I don’t need it to be explained in-show why.

    February 17, 2015 at 11:21 am #296153
    PanTheMan
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    I think this has more to do with the alternate page 23 from the book, showing Regina and Robin meeting in the tavern.

    If we know there’s an alternate page that tells another story, then it’s within the realm of possibility that there could be an alternate version of Robin Hood’s character.

    February 17, 2015 at 11:57 am #296155
    obisgirl
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    I think this has more to do with the alternate page 23 from the book, showing Regina and Robin meeting in the tavern. If we know there’s an alternate page that tells another story, then it’s within the realm of possibility that there could be an alternate version of Robin Hood’s character.

    Oh God, please noooooooo!!! I don’t need that kind of confusion in my head when it comes to this show.

    February 17, 2015 at 12:15 pm #296158
    PanTheMan
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    PanTheMan wrote:

    I think this has more to do with the alternate page 23 from the book, showing Regina and Robin meeting in the tavern. If we know there’s an alternate page that tells another story, then it’s within the realm of possibility that there could be an alternate version of Robin Hood’s character.

    Oh God, please noooooooo!!! I don’t need that kind of confusion in my head when it comes to this show.

     

    I agree Obisgirl… that was just where my mind went first. Honestly, there are more problems in the writing they could fix than the recasting of Robin Hood.

    February 17, 2015 at 12:27 pm #296164
    RumplesGirl
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    The only acceptable way to do this is the following:

    –Sean Maguire has always been RH

    –He was glamoured as Tom Ellis to break into the DO castle for…reasons

    –Marian knew that Sean’s RH was going to do this so she was not confused by Tom Ellis’s RH

    –Belle somehow re-met RH in between Lacey and NYC Serenade but met him as Sean not Tom

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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