Matt’s Inside Line: Swan Thief and Kurt Flynn

[HappyEndings]

I seriously doubt that Bae will be involved in stopping the fail save option because of the following:

1. Regina has to tell them what the diamond is used for it is and she won’t because of Henry.
2. Plus they already stated that they are taking the stuff back to the home office.

Did anyone catch the fact Tamara says “Magic is UnHoly” Holy is a Christian Term.

[RumplesGirl]

@HappyEndings wrote:

I seriously doubt that Bae will be involved in stopping the fail save option because of the following:

1. Regina has to tell them what the diamond is used for it is and she won’t because of Henry.
2. Plus they already stated that they are taking the stuff back to the home office.

Did anyone catch the fact Tamara says “Magic is UnHoly” Holy is a Christian Term.

All good points, but if GOAT need to make a rapid escape they might try to activate the fail safe if they torture Regina enough so that she tells them about it.

And “holy” has been noticed by many people so far but it isn’t a strictly Christian term but more broadly a “religious” term. It could mean that whoever GOAT work for are a sort of cult like shadow organization operating under the assumption that all magic is bad and must be eradicated.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[TheGoldenKey]

A few thoughts. I don’t believe that GOAT know about the fail safe. They seem to think it’s some sort of jewel. Will Hook or Reggie tell them what it does?

Back to the remark about Bae/Neal growing up in FTL. He didn’t say the EF. So, was it really an error on his part or is he giving us a huge hint that the curse affected all other worlds in FTL and not just the EF. Perhaps he spent those 150 missing years (time gap between vortex and arriving in London) travelling in those other worlds such as OZ, Wonderland or World Without Colour (as we’ve questioned whether the London we are seeing is from the latter world).

Haven’t really thought this through and just throwing it out there but it does make me wonder.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[RumplesGirl]

If Neal has control of the Pan or if he is a member of Hook’s crew (and the JR can fly) then I think it’s very possible that Neal spent a lot of time traveling to other places. I think Neal knows Jefferson for sure and they met while he was in WL. I think we’ll learn a ton about what Bae was doing in NL for those years and I doubt he stayed put for all 250+ years.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[TheGoldenKey]

Yes, but what has me wondering is that if he was telling the truth then that implies that the curse affected the other worlds. Were they devastated the way the EF was? That’s been one of our big questions for awhile now. Was the curse limited to the EF or did it encompass all FTL worlds.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Phee]

Regarding MRJ’s quote, I think it was just a poor choice of words on his part and what he was implying is that people from FTL are “his people”, as in, they’re all from where he’s from and have been displaced in a different world, just like himself. And he knows how rough that situation is to deal with, so he did the only thing he could at the time to help them, which was stand back and let Emma fulfill her destiny to save them.

Regarding what happens to Nealfire in the finale, I mentioned this in another thread somewhere the other day, but I think it may be a case of him confronting Tamara, (or at least hinting that he feels that something isn’t right with her), so she’ll pop a bean and push him down a portal to eliminate him as a threat to her plans in SB.

Regarding Kurt, would exhumation be too gruesome? Maybe Regina tells them where he’s buried and they dig him up and his remains have still got some identifying piece of clothing on or something, so they can conclusively say it’s him, but not have the actor in the ep.

[Slurpeez]

@Phee wrote:

Regarding Kurt, would exhumation be too gruesome? Maybe Regina tells them where he’s buried and they dig him up and his remains have still got some identifying piece of clothing on or something, so they can conclusively say it’s him, but not have the actor in the ep.

I sure hope not. That sounds a little too CSI or Bones for Once, despite the fact they showed an undead magically animated corpse last week.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

@Phee wrote:

Regarding Kurt, would exhumation be too gruesome? Maybe Regina tells them where he’s buried and they dig him up and his remains have still got some identifying piece of clothing on or something, so they can conclusively say it’s him, but not have the actor in the ep.

I sure hope not. That sounds a little too CSI or Bones for Once, despite the fact they showed an undead magically animated corpse last week.

Someone remind me: in episodes where Jamie has made a surprise appearance, did his name appear on the synopsis?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kfchimera]

We’ve had zombies before on the show….wouldn’t put it past Regina….
(Also funny cause SMG and MJR were on Walking Dead right, there’s a meta-joke if they are shown in a scene with a zombie).

I’m really curious what Regina did do with him. She didn’t kill Hansel and Gretel’s father, so why Kurt? Did she have the wonderland mirror?

On the “how many worlds” front, we know that Regina could pull in people she wanted but something kept out those she did not, like say, Whale’s brother. Did she have to actively exclude them or was it just default they were not pulled in from other worlds unless she wanted the person? So what I imagined is her curse went : Everyone in FTL + these specific people– Whale, Jefferson, (other characters we haven’t met who have history with her).

I also wonder–was Anton stil in FTL because the beanstalk is a kind of constant portal between worlds, rather than the bean which is a temporary one? Or was it Cora’s bubble that kept him in?

Side note: How come SB beans don’t have a big old stalk even though “mature” enough for magic beans?

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Phee]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@slurpeez108 wrote:

@Phee wrote:

Regarding Kurt, would exhumation be too gruesome? Maybe Regina tells them where he’s buried and they dig him up and his remains have still got some identifying piece of clothing on or something, so they can conclusively say it’s him, but not have the actor in the ep.

I sure hope not. That sounds a little too CSI or Bones for Once, despite the fact they showed an undead magically animated corpse last week.

Someone remind me: in episodes where Jamie has made a surprise appearance, did his name appear on the synopsis?

Here’s the press release for A Land Without Magic and Jamie’s listed:
http://onceuponatime-fans.com/jamie-dornan/1-22-a-land-without-magic-press-release-season-finale
How could they conclusively show, so that there’s no shadow of a doubt in Greg’s mind, what happened to his father, without showing the actor? Digging up remains that are still wearing the clothes Owen last saw his father in would do the trick. And digging up remains would totally count as “resurfacing”.

@KFChimera wrote:

I’m really curious what Regina did do with him. She didn’t kill Hansel and Gretel’s father, so why Kurt?

Kurt was a serious flight risk, and she didn’t want him running around in the real world telling people stuff.

@KFChimera wrote:

On the “how many worlds” front, we know that Regina could pull in people she wanted but something kept out those she did not, like say, Whale’s brother. Did she have to actively exclude them or was it just default they were not pulled in from other worlds unless she wanted the person? So what I imagined is her curse went : Everyone in FTL + these specific people– Whale, Jefferson, (other characters we haven’t met who have history with her).

I’ve always figured it was that “default + extras” thing, yeah. It would automatically grab anyone and everyone in FTL, but she could sort of re-write the code of the curse like you’d re-write a computer program, to reach out and grab one or two bonus hostages from elsewhere as well.

@KFChimera wrote:

Side note: How come SB beans don’t have a big old stalk even though “mature” enough for magic beans?

Don’t get me started on how do beans that take 100 years to mature in FTL mature in a month in SB?! 😆

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