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March 29, 2015 at 9:52 pm #300167RumplesGirlKeymaster
Author! (or…Authors?)
There was a lot dropped about the Author(s) in this weeks episode.
General reactions, theories, and other stuff!
(everyone owes me 10000 cookies for saying that Walt Disney the Author)
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 29, 2015 at 10:02 pm #300175WickedRegalParticipantI’m jumping aboard @RumplesGirl crack theory that Emma becomes the new author.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
March 30, 2015 at 3:18 am #300206SlurpeezParticipantI was disappointed. Since when does the Author have the power to control people’s actions with a magic pen given by the Sorcerer? That makes all that talk by the apprentice about free will seem obsolete (unless the apprentice really just is a jerk and was lying about being forced to turn Lily evil and send her to ALWM). How are we supposed to tell when people have done things volitionally or against their will? This magic pen calls into question all of the actions the characters ever made in the Enchanted Forest.
And just where is that magic pen now? How does August know about the Sorcerer appointing the Author?Does that make the Sorcerer on the level of God if he gets to appoint the Author? And just what side is the Sorcerer on anyway if he made a pen that the Author uses to control people? Crack theory: Does Lily have the pen now?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 30, 2015 at 5:31 am #300216PheeParticipantSome parts of the reveal I liked. Other parts, (as slurpeez outlined well in the post above), seemed to not really make sense.
I like that there have been multiple Authors. I like that their job was to document what happened. That feels like a shoutout to all the people in our world who have written fairy tales. That fits, it makes sense, it allowed them to sneak in a Walt Disney mention, and that’s all well and good for me.
The issue is with the non-explanation of HOW this particular Author suddenly gained the ability to go rogue. I like how Patrick Fischler has portrayed him, I like how he interacted with Snowing, setting them on a path that manipulated their story because he’s shady. But it just…doesn’t make sense how he’s able to do such things when previous Authors couldn’t and didn’t?
With any luck Henry will become the next Author, considering how his belief in the Book has been a major thing since the beginning of the show.
March 30, 2015 at 8:53 am #300225RumplesGirlKeymasterI like that there have been multiple Authors. I like that their job was to document what happened. That feels like a shoutout to all the people in our world who have written fairy tales. That fits, it makes sense, it allowed them to sneak in a Walt Disney mention, and that’s all well and good for me.
See that actually bothered me because how does the Sorcerer have any influence in our world? He mentioned Walt, but then also “a man who watched shadows on a wall” is very clearly Plato and then there were “playwrights”
It actually sounds like every Author was from our world….
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 30, 2015 at 9:44 am #300246PheeParticipantSee that actually bothered me because how does the Sorcerer have any influence in our world? He mentioned Walt, but then also “a man who watched shadows on a wall” is very clearly Plato and then there were “playwrights”
It actually sounds like every Author was from our world….
That’s something I hadn’t considered, but now that you mention it, it totally bugs.
March 30, 2015 at 10:31 am #300263mousearsParticipanthere’s my crack theory – all authors/recorders of history have the sight (ability to see the future) as part of their gift and they can see in advance several outcomes of each story, however, the character has to make the choice for his/her path. (I also think that the Sorcerer and his Apprentice also can see the future) . The last faithful author was Walt (aka Walt Disney) who as an author/recorder and during his time stories ended with “and they lived happily ever after”, and he then went on to record the next story. Also as he had the “sight”, he was able to provide to people in the land without magic the stories we know today. Using the timeline on the forum and Disney’s date of death (12/15/66), you can see how the stories we know started to change from that specific point forward – hence when the new/current Author took over and began to manipulate the stories.Using this theory all the stories we’ve been told in OUAT was a direct result of the Author’s (aka Peddler) manipulation up until the Evil Queen enacted the curse and created Storybrooke (if you look at a screen shot right before the Author is locked in the page he is writing about the Evil Queen). Both Rumple, the Sorcerer and the Apprentice having the sight knew that Emma, was the Savior, and through her the happy endings which this Author took away would be brought back and the stories could start to correct themselves. I believe that ultimately, the role of the author will go to Henry when he grows up as he has the heart of the truest believer.
March 30, 2015 at 10:33 am #300264RumplesGirlKeymasterall authors/recorders of history have the sight (ability to see the future) as part of their gift and they can see in advance several outcomes of each story, however, the character has to make the choice for his/her path. (I also think that the Sorcerer and his Apprentice also can see the future) . The last faithful author was Walt (aka Walt Disney) who as an author/recorder and during his time stories ended with “and they lived happily ever after”, and he then went on to record the next story.
That’s really interesting
I believe that ultimately, the role of the author will go to Henry when he grows up as he has the heart of the truest believer.
Yes I agree with that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 30, 2015 at 10:50 am #300270SweetsParticipantSee that actually bothered me because how does the Sorcerer have any influence in our world? He mentioned Walt, but then also “a man who watched shadows on a wall” is very clearly Plato and then there were “playwrights” It actually sounds like every Author was from our world….
I think there are multiple Authors. One for each realm. It just so happens that the Author for the Enchanted Forest decided to influence the outcome of his realm by nudging people along to do what he thought would make a good story.
We know that the Sorcerer at least has some ability in our world because he sent Ingrid to the Land without Magic and gave her the scroll to enter Storybrooke.
March 30, 2015 at 10:55 am #300272RumplesGirlKeymasterAnother question:
How did Walt get knowledge of the fairy tale characters from the EF and record them, but clearly didn’t record their stories the way ONCE has presented them? Also, he recorded them long before the EF characters were even born. Disney’s Snow White was put out in 1938, obviously decades before ONCE’s Snow was born and doing her thing.
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