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Merlin and the Dark One

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › 5×05 “Dreamcatcher” › Merlin and the Dark One

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  • October 25, 2015 at 9:02 pm #310793
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Tonight we got a bit of backstory on Merlin and the Dark One. Apparently the Dark One in the shiny mask took away the only woman Merlin ever loved.

    Who was the woman?

    Who was the Dark One?

    And what did the Dark One do to the mysterious woman?

    Also, now that Merlin has been officially revealed, what do you think of him and what little backstory we have?

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 25, 2015 at 9:15 pm #310809
    Keb
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    I am convinced, especially with an upcoming title that Merlin’s first love and the Dark One we saw are both Nimue, who was Merlin’s love in Mort d’Arthur. (He chased her until she convinced him to teach her magic, and then, annoyed with his constant chasing, trapped him in a tree/under a rock with the magic she’d learned.)

    I haven’t yet decided whether I think Nimue is the first Dark One or the second (who killed the first to gain his power), but especially the way Emma wielded both dark and light magic to get Merlin free makes me think that’s what we’re going to see in some way.

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    October 25, 2015 at 9:17 pm #310811
    TheWatcher
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    Also, now that Merlin has been officially revealed, what do you think of him and what little backstory we have?

    I LOVE HIM!!!!!! I find the lost love backstory a bit cliché. Well. REALLY CLICHE. But this seems to be the formula on this show. Lost love or missing/crazy/evil parentals..

    But yeah, Merlin is already epic. Cant wait to see more.

    Who was the Dark One?

    Honestly… in knowing that merlin tied the darkness to him, I am guessing either 1) Someone that his love also loved and so tying the darkness to him was sort of a way to get rid of the competition (hey everyones got a dark side, right?) and so perhaps the dark one killed her or imprisoned her as a way of revenge. 2) Family. Some kind of crazy/evil family member of Merlins. 3) A close friend turned enemy. Literally the dark to Merlin’s light.

    Who was the woman?

    Lady Of The Lake? Black Fairy? Both?

    "I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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    October 25, 2015 at 9:24 pm #310818
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I’m with Keb. The first Dark One is Nimue, Merlin’s lost love.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 25, 2015 at 9:25 pm #310819
    WickedRegal
    Participant

    The Dark One was the woman, who chose the darkness over Merlin which explains why he didn’t have it in him to kill the Dark One we saw because he was still in love with her.

    This Merlin is interesting, but his backstory is pretty guessable.

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    October 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm #310827
    TheWatcher
    Participant

    wait, was this the first dark one? or was this just a dark one?

    WHAT IF: The woman he loved, Nimue, is the dark one, right? And when he said you took her away, he was talking to the darkness inside her, not the person. And his plan was to kill the dark one, but he couldn’t because he loved her. And so she turned him into a tree. That’s what we are talking right?

    "I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
    Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

    October 25, 2015 at 9:37 pm #310829
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    wait, was this the first dark one? or was this just a dark one? WHAT IF: The woman he loved, Nimue, is the dark one, right? And when he said you took her away, he was talking to the darkness inside her, not the person. And his plan was to kill the dark one, but he couldn’t because he loved her. And so she turned him into a tree. That’s what we are talking right?

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    I think this is the First Dark One. There’s a reason they put that person in a mask. There is a big reveal to be had later on. Nimue is the First Dark One and Merlin’s lost love and he couldn’t kill her because he loved her so much, but she couldn’t kill him either, so she turned him into a tree.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 25, 2015 at 9:37 pm #310831
    WickedRegal
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    wait, was this the first dark one? or was this just a dark one? WHAT IF: The woman he loved, Nimue, is the dark one, right? And when he said you took her away, he was talking to the darkness inside her, not the person. And his plan was to kill the dark one, but he couldn’t because he loved her. And so she turned him into a tree. That’s what we are talking right?

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    Boom! My thoughts exactly!

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    October 25, 2015 at 9:39 pm #310832
    Keb
    Participant

    Nimue = Lady of the Lake in many versions. (Or A Lady of the Lake…at least one of them gets killed off in Mort D’Arthur, so…yanno. Following that timeline would be harder than Once’s I think.)

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    October 25, 2015 at 9:40 pm #310833
    MatthewPaul
    Moderator

    What confuses me is that the press release for 505 credited Guy Fauchon as “Vortigan”, and IMDB credits him as “First Dark One.” However, Vortigan’s name is never even said. Why would the press release even give him that specific name? Unless someone goofed and accidentally spoiled his identity in the press release.

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