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I *think* I like that idea. It fits with some of the Greek mythology (okay, and others, but Greek is my game) that there was a specific catalyst for how darkness entered the world. There was an actual event that explains why life sucks, people suck, everything sucks and why everything continues to suck. Usually it’s because humans do a thing (Pandora, Eve).
They’ve had Pandora’s box in S3A.
And let’s not forget that Blue said that the Dark One’s powers are not from their world way back in “The Return.”
[adrotate group="5"]There was an actual event that explains why life sucks, people suck, everything sucks and why everything continues to suck.
Wait, you mean other that OUAT’s writing decisions? ^_^
It’s not an original theory, but it fits with a lot of myth structures (‘world out of balance’ via the original act of pollution). At this point, they’re pretty heavily mired up in big scale cosmology, so it would be a waste if they didn’t try to tie in the Dark One origin/Merlin story with something as “proto” mythical as a journey to the Underworld plot.
And on that note, perhaps “snuffing out all the light” is just faulty programming — the Darkness trying to get back to its conditions of origins, but the realms are closed, things are trapped where they shouldn’t be etc etc.
One could even read Head!Rumple’s diatribe about “family” always getting in the way as a metaphor for what also makes one cling to life and hope.
OR, snuffing out the light could mean that the darkness wants to make ALL realms into an extension of the underworld! Thus bringing the underworld, and the rest of dark magic, here to where the darkness is!
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If Merlin’s lost love = original DO (or first DO tied to the Dagger) = Nimue, and if we are indeed doing the whole Underworld thing for the second half of the season, is it possible that DO magic originates from the Underworld — like a bit that got trapped on the wrong side of a realm, and either mutated into or was harnessed as dark magic? Perhaps because the original DO (Merlin’s lost love, or her immediate predecessor) wanted more and more power, and caused some sort of rift between realms meant to be kept separate?
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Dark Magic originated in the Underworld. How could it get unleashed into the world?
Maybe Nimue’s dying, and Charon’s coming for her, but Merlin tries to save her, and Charon has some magical plot device doo-hickey full of dark matter for problem cases like this where folks try to resist and he’s gotta drag them outta there with the black tentacle stuff, but because it’s Merlin there’s a big old magic battle that happens, and he magics up a sword to fight with, and the dark matter enters the sword in order to control it, then thrusts itself into Nimue’s heart to finish her off, and when Merlin tries to pull it out the blade snaps, and in desperation to not have her leave, he does a magical whatever to create the Dagger and have her bound to it, so that as long as the Dagger stays with him, so will she, and as a result, dark magic stays in the world too.
Or something?
Or, how about this: Nimue actually does die, and Merlin goes to the underworld and brings her back. But the consequence (price / side effect) is that some darkness from the underworld comes along for the ride when he brings her back. It wouldn’t have been released on the world if he hadn’t gone to save her. So he gets her back, but she is infected with this darkness and becomes the first dark one!
It would perfectly parallel how most of us think the darkness will be banished this season. 🙂
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I *think* I like that idea. It fits with some of the Greek mythology (okay, and others, but Greek is my game) that there was a specific catalyst for how darkness entered the world. There was an actual event that explains why life sucks, people suck, everything sucks and why everything continues to suck. Usually it’s because humans do a thing (Pandora, Eve).
They’ve had Pandora’s box in S3A.
And let’s not forget that Blue said that the Dark One’s powers are not from their world way back in “The Return.”
And we still don’t know who made the original Dark Curse, and stashed it away with the Chernabog to guard it…
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OR, snuffing out the light could mean that the darkness wants to make ALL realms into an extension of the underworld! Thus bringing the underworld, and the rest of dark magic, here to where the darkness is!
Hmmm… ya know if Hades is angry at Zeus for denying him his place as King God…then that’d make perfect sense. Hades is underworld god…. and ifthe entire world is the underworld then Hades becomes King God….. What if the darkness was created for that purpose?
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It would perfectly parallel how most of us think the darkness will be banished this season.
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Ooh, I’m suddenly very much reminded of “A Wizard of Earthsea” by Ursula K. Le Guin! Who else here knows that story?
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Or, how about this: Nimue actually does die, and Merlin goes to the underworld and brings her back.
That I can see since they are playing with all the Greek myths. What you’re describing is a successful Orpheus and Eurydice and it’s in line with how I think S5B will go with Emma being taken and Hook, et al have to go after her.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"^ And this time leaving the darkness there. Perfect parallel!
Though they might need Merlin to tell them how his doing so was what let the darkness out, and to tell them how to do it right this time and trap the darkness where it came from!
I love symmetry! 🙂
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Or, how about this: Nimue actually does die, and Merlin goes to the underworld and brings her back. But the consequence (price / side effect) is that some darkness from the underworld comes along for the ride when he brings her back. It wouldn’t have been released on the world if he hadn’t gone to save her. So he gets her back, but she is infected with this darkness and becomes the first dark one!
It would perfectly parallel how most of us think the darkness will be banished this season.
SFG
I do suspect that there has always been a link between the Dark One and the Underworld. For whatever reason, Emma not charging a price to heal Robin’s fatal wounds triggered the Fury to go after him. Of course all magic comes with a price, but what if the Dark One’s magic comes at an even steeper price as a result of originating from the Underworld?
Ooh, I’m suddenly very much reminded of “A Wizard of Earthsea” by Ursula K. Le Guin! Who else here knows that story?
Actually, yes! I was thinking about Earthsea at the end of last season, when Emma turns dark. And it would fit well with her being both the dark one and the savior.
Of course all magic comes with a price, but what if the Dark One’s magic comes at an even steeper price as a result of originating from the Underworld?
Oh, that’s interesting! It would also fit with Rumple’s cryptic speech about unrepayable debts etc etc last season. I wonder though how the mechanics work. The language they’ve been using for the darkness is as something that “takes root,” which gives the impression that over time it becomes part of its host, changing both the body and the mind. I wonder if they’re going to sort of blend Greek and Christian themes: the more the DO uses dark magic, the more their soul belongs to the Underworld. Something like that.
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