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October 4, 2015 at 9:10 pm #309113RumplesGirlKeymaster
So Merlin’s in a tree. That’s actually in keeping with Arthurian mythology but maybe OUAT will change it up: how did Merlin get put in that tree? And can he get out and how–Emma or Regina or something else? If he’s in a tree how did he talk to Young! Movie Theater! Emma?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 4, 2015 at 9:34 pm #309129WickedRegalParticipantI’m confused…just confused…and I don’t trust Arthur or Gwen, but if anyone releases Merlin, I’m pretty sure it will be Emma.
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October 4, 2015 at 10:08 pm #309144TheWatcherParticipantWhat if Merlin isn’t in the tree at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
When he met Emma, he didn’t say anything about “Hey, I don’t mean to….BARK at ya, but I think you should LEAF this movie theater and come free me from some random tree. I know it’s scary but i’m…ROOTING for ya, hahah….but no seriously, come help, I’ve got termites!” He just told he to stay away from Excalibur. And also…. we only know that Merlin is trapped in a tree because Arthur said it. I think we all agree he is quite shady. And what about apprentice? Surely he must have known Merlin was permanently cosplaying treebeard, right? But he never mentioned it? Or even said where Merlin is.
Nah. I don’t trust this. Something isn’t adding up. And I am betting Arthur isn’t being as truthful as he claims. Merlin is not in that tree. Whoever it is or whatever it is can only be freed by reuniting the dagger with Excalibur and doing so will probably unleash something even worse. I am betting Morgana is the one in that tree. Or black fairy. But not merlin. This is why he warned Emma. Don’t use Excalibur.
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ROFL!!!! @TheWatcher, I love this!
And also…. we only know that Merlin is trapped in a tree because Arthur said it. I think we all agree he is quite shady. And what about apprentice? Surely he must have known Merlin was permanently cosplaying treebeard, right? But he never mentioned it? Or even said where Merlin is. Nah. I don’t trust this. Something isn’t adding up. And I am betting Arthur isn’t being as truthful as he claims. Merlin is not in that tree.
THIS! I don’t trust Arthur or Gwen…something just doesn’t really add up with what they’re telling the gang. They seem pretty desperate to unite Excalibur with the dagger, and I just have a bad feeling about them.
Whoever it is or whatever it is can only be freed by reuniting the dagger with Excalibur and doing so will probably unleash something even worse. I am betting Morgana is the one in that tree. Or black fairy. But not merlin. This is why he warned Emma. Don’t use Excalibur.
I’m leaning more so towards this head cannon…I don’t think Merlin’s in the tree, something far worse lurks beneath those roots.
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October 5, 2015 at 1:32 am #309173SapphireParticipantWhat if Merlin isn’t in the tree at all!!!!!!!!!!!! When he met Emma, he didn’t say anything about “Hey, I don’t mean to….BARK at ya, but I think you should LEAF this movie theater and come free me from some random tree. I know it’s scary but i’m…ROOTING for ya, hahah….but no seriously, come help, I’ve got termites!” He just told he to stay away from Excalibur. And also…. we only know that Merlin is trapped in a tree because Arthur said it. I think we all agree he is quite shady. And what about apprentice? Surely he must have known Merlin was permanently cosplaying treebeard, right? But he never mentioned it? Or even said where Merlin is. Nah. I don’t trust this. Something isn’t adding up. And I am betting Arthur isn’t being as truthful as he claims. Merlin is not in that tree. Whoever it is or whatever it is can only be freed by reuniting the dagger with Excalibur and doing so will probably unleash something even worse. I am betting Morgana is the one in that tree. Or black fairy. But not merlin. This is why he warned Emma. Don’t use Excalibur.
I was thinking this the other day; Merlin isn’t the one in the tree. (Granted, it evolved into a crack theory which I posted about Guin being the one in the tree, but I was still thinking it.) Arthur seems far too charming and shady to me. I suspect the ‘prophecy’ is something that he schemed up and sold to his subjects as a positive (Merlin’s return), but instead it hides an ulterior motive (power or personal vendetta, for example). I agree that if Merlin isn’t in there, then Morgana or the Black Fairy is.
Going off of this theory, I poked around on Google for fairies and trees. Wikipedia has an article on Celtic Sacred Trees, which states in regards to the elder tree: “The elder, having clusters of white flowers and red or blackish berry-like fruit, has many associations with the fairy world in oral traditions of recent centuries in Celtic countries. On the Isle of Man, where elder grows abundantly and is called tramman, it is commonly thought of as the ‘fairy tree’. In Ireland many individual elder trees were thought haunted by fairies or demons.” Celtic Sacred Trees Wikipedia
If it isn’t Merlin, and is the Black Fairy or Morgana instead, what do you all think Arthur’s motives are?
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October 5, 2015 at 1:38 am #309174TheWatcherParticipantArthur’s opening scene showed him to readily be willing to lie to his subjects.
Also, isn’t Morgana the sister of King Arthur? Perhaps that is why he wants them to free the tree if it is indeed her inside it.
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October 5, 2015 at 5:57 am #309187PheeParticipantIf he’s in a tree how did he talk to Young! Movie Theater! Emma?
In this ep, they mentioned that they heard the prophecy “a decade or so” ago, so I guess Merlin didn’t get stuck in a tree until after he’d been to see Emma, if he was still delivering prophecy to the people of Camelot about a decade ago.
*edit* Ooops, I see Heather beat me to it, that’s what I get for posting before reading the whole thread.
October 5, 2015 at 8:39 am #309196RumplesGirlKeymasterI think Arthur’s motives are simple: he wants to keep Camelot the way it is–the peaceful, utopia-esque kingdom. In order to do that, he needs Excalibur to be whole so that people will believe he’s the rightful king. It’s shady but it’s also good-intentioned shady which is very OUAT
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 5, 2015 at 9:21 am #309203RumplesGirlKeymasterIn this ep, they mentioned that they heard the prophecy “a decade or so” ago, so I guess Merlin didn’t get stuck in a tree until after he’d been to see Emma, if he was still delivering prophecy to the people of Camelot about a decade ago. *edit* Ooops, I see Heather beat me to it, that’s what I get for posting before reading the whole thread.
Yes, but is the decade or so even true? Because when did Arthur and Lancelot pull that sword from the stone? Because they mentioned the prophecy then too but that has to be before the Dark Curse #1, right? Unless there are multiple prophecies.
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