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March 9, 2013 at 2:51 am #136151jessieparadoxes of peopleParticipant
Does anyone else want to know more on Milah’s back story?I personally want to know the exact reasons why she married Rumple.In “The Crocodile,” she said,”Because I never loved you.”Yet,in “Manhatten,”she was all,”I love you….Be careful…..We can start a family together….”(‘course this was before Rumple injured himself,but still….).So what do you guys think?Maybe she really did love him up until he smashed foot,and she was overstating it when she said”I never loved you”?or perhaps she was dreaming of true love,but all that was available was Rumple;so she decided to try to make it work with him,and his cowardice just turned that off for her?or was she forced into marrying him by a relative or what?
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March 9, 2013 at 3:05 am #178386RumplesGirlKeymasterPersonally, no. But that’s because the mere thought of that woman makes me want to smash things. I really dislike her and I recognize it’s because I have this unwavering loyalty to Rumple and people who hurt him or break his heart are on my “must die” list. Also: I suspect that Milah cared for him and that’s why they got married but she hated embarrassment. Rumple embarassed her; it’s what she said in The Crocodile: “other wives became honored widows and I was lashed to the village coward.” So long as Rumple was what she deemed heroic, she was fine with him. But the second he stopped, she no longer loved him. So, while I think she cared for him I also think it was very superficial. I have to wonder why Rumple joined the army in the first place. He says “my weaving days are behind me” as if being a humble spinner was something to be ashamed of.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 9, 2013 at 4:59 am #178416jessieparadoxes of peopleParticipantRumple wanted to fight because he wanted to prove he wasn’t a coward like his father.I think it had precious little to do with weaving despite that comment.He was willingly drafted in because he was going to get out from under his father’s shadow.And yes,very,very,VERY superficial,her.I don’t think it was right for her to leave him.She chose him in the first place,and no marriage is easy,no matter how brave your husband is or whatever!!!!!!Plus he had love for her!!!!!! It hurt him terribly!!!!!So no,I really do NOT like Milah at all,but it would be nice if the writers themselves clarified her mindset there just a bit
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March 9, 2013 at 5:59 am #178427MyrilParticipantThink Milah was in a way overstating and in a way she wasn’t when she told Rumple that she never loved him.
Milah believed herself that she was in love with Rumple back before he went to the Ogre wars. She was not crazy about him going into that war. It didn’t seem to matter to her, that Rumple was called to be the son of a coward. Although possible at this point Rumple only thought people would judge him as that despite that they barely cared; think he was teased but it was not that much of an issue for others, he was more him struggling with the shadow of his father. Milah didn’t see any need that Rumple had to prove himself, but she supported him when he insisted to go to war. All she wanted was a good and safe family life. Impossible to tell by what we saw if she believed it was her one and only true love (if she at all believed in such a thing) or if she loved him as the best and nicest guy she could get in her village. She might have been not even able to tell by herself the difference at that time.
Being married to someone who struggled with being the son of a coward and sometimes might have been teased by people because of that, and being married to someone who irrefutable injured himself to avoid battle (no matter what more or less good reasons Rumple had for himself) is a huge difference of experience. While before it was more of a tease, a neighborly but not despiteful kind of joke, it now turned into a very real thing. Her husband was not the son of a coward anymore, he was a coward now himself. Pregnant and then with new born son Milah had to deal with despise and probably hate by other people because of that. Yup, her reaction was unexpected harsh when Rumple returned, but it spoke of frustration of the feeling that her, their dream of a good and safe family life seemed destroyed. Milah was without hope and without hope love has a hard time to survive, no matter how strong it was before. (after some musing by now understand better why she was reacting the way she reacted)
When Milah met Hook a few years later she experienced something that she never had experienced before, making her question herself, if she ever loved Rumple.
I find it interesting that the idea of one true love often seems to come with the assumption, that people know that this is their one true love, that what they feel at a given point in time for a particular person is the thing. How can anyone be so sure? I mean, is there something like some voice coming from the off announcing; that is your true love, dearie? It is possible that you truly believe to be in love with someone, but later you realize it was not that kind of love, it was not all true love, maybe not love at all (good for you if it never happened so far to you, but it happens).
Just read about a study about the impact of believe in “romantic destiny”, in that people are meant for each other or not, that there is something like a soul mate (in the sense of a person meant to be with you). Might surprise but the result of this study was, that people believing in the concept of one true soul are the ones giving up more likely on a partnership the moment difficulties arise. If anyone is interested, here a text about the study. Would have thought it’s the other way around, not? Or not. Problem is maybe more what we understand true love is then true love itself (if that makes sense to anyone)
Point is: with expectations high disappointment can be higher.
In short: Milah didn’t lie to Rumple, neither when she said to him she loved him nor later when told him she never loved him. It was just that she saw things very differently between these moments. She wasn’t superficial, not necessarily, she got a different view on life, on her life with Rumple.
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March 9, 2013 at 7:45 pm #178525jessieparadoxes of peopleParticipantI really like what you said on Milah,myril!!!Makes a lot more sense now!!!!
Now on the bit about soul mates……very interesting topic.I am a Christian,and as such I believe everything has a definite course,that God has a plan for each of us.I believe we are meant to have one person to live out our lives with.It was that way from the beginning.I believe an individual will eventually know if someone is the one for them–and their personalities may clash like purple and maroon!!!!My mom knew at once that my dad was the one for her,even before they were introduced.They fell deeply in love,but after a few years a period of lots and lots and lots of difficulties came.Their ways of thinking were polar opposites of each other.But they kept working at it because they knew they were meant for each other.I think it’s fine for people to believe in soul mates.They just need to know that their “soul mate”might not have a perfectly compatible personality for theirs.Not by any means saying what’s in that study is wrong,but there is a difference between what “soul-mate believers” think is true and do and what really is true and what they should do.
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