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Milah influenced Hook in the sense that she drove him towards revenge, if not for her who knows what may have become of Hook. Hook himself is not the one to blame either he lost his brother in the most tragic of circumstances and his father probably abandoned him also, that’s scarred him for life and will always be with him.
[adrotate group="5"]If Milah and Hook hadn’t come back to that specific port, she would have lived.
Makes you wonder, why they came back? My head canon is, since Bae’s older now and Hook mentioned to Bae that Milah wanted to come back for him when he was older, that was why they were there. Except Milah didn’t know that Rumple lost Bae at this time when they came back.
In any case, she is a plot device character, much same the way the blue fairy is.
Makes you wonder, why they came back? My head canon is, since Bae’s older now and Hook mentioned to Bae that Milah wanted to come back for him when he was older, that was why they were there. Except Milah didn’t know that Rumple lost Bae at this time when they came back.
Fate, huh? She is a cruel mistress. But yes it does make you wonder….so I assume Hook and Milah would have just continued their sailing/adventuring ways until they grew too old and settled down. Maybe had a kid or two
In any case, she is a plot device character, much same the way the blue fairy is.
*whipsers* Sneaky Fairy is Sneaky
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Anyone ever wonder how Milah and Rumple met? Looking back at the opening scene of Manhattan, it felt like maybe Rumple and Milah were newly weds and just starting out.
Milah obviously learned the spinning from Rumple. So maybe Milah (probably not looking for a husband) signed up as an apprentice, he taught her and they fell in love. It would also be an interesting parallel to Rumple’s relationship with Cora. Because he taught her dark magic and they fell in love in the process.
Anyone ever wonder how Milah and Rumple met? Looking back at the opening scene of Manhattan, it felt like maybe Rumple and Milah were newly weds and just starting out.
I’ve had two competing theories in my head depending on which episode I watch
The Crocodile: it was an arranged marriage. Milah’s family had fallen on hard times and needed to marry their daughter off. Rumple, while not extraordinary wealthy, had an honest living that brought in enough to provide for Milah and pay her dowry which was a smaller one being from a humble background.
Manhattan: basically what you wrote, apprentice turned lover relationship.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think the Milah and Rumple in Mahattan had been married for at least a few months, they were still in the honeymoon phase of their new marriage which swiftly ended upon Rumple’s return from the ogre wars.
As for how they met, I think it was genuine love. Rumple doesn’t seem like the guy to marry for anything other than love. He’s a hopeless romantic. Milah’s family would’ve paid Milah’s dowry to Rumple (Since Charming’s mother was hoping that if Charming married the daughter of the blacksmith or baker (can’t remember) then the dowry would’ve saved the farm). I think Rumple would’ve courted Milah, he seemed like a sweet guy, and Milah would’ve fallen for Rumple. Milah seems like the type who likes being swept off her feet. The idea of marriage and settling down would’ve appealed to her at that time in her life. However when things start heading south, Milah dreams of adventure and escape, meeting Hook who sweeps her off her feet etc. Milah always seemed to want more than her lot in life.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI think their love was genuine too. They looked it in those promo stills for Manhattan and on-screen.
I agree, Rumple strikes me as the kind of man who would want to marry for love.
wow I just read through an amazing discussion about Milah!!!!!
here’s copy of some of it0ceanofdarkness:
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0ceanofdarkness replied to your post:It amazes me that someone can simply say “When you…
I presume this is about the Rumple made Milah unhappy therefore it was ok for her to crush his soul argument? If she was so freaking unhappy that her husband tried to come home to her and his son instead of dying, she could have just left.
Yep that’s the one. Basically it was “Well, if we’re going to take a look at her abuses, we need to consider the fact that he wouldn’t change his life to suit her needs.” Just NO. So he didn’t want to leave that town. There’s nothing wrong with that! But instead of saying to him “Well, I think it’s time we split up because I want something else” and leaving, she spends years abusing him and then finally leaves him after convincing him she’s been kidnapped by pirates.
I just find it unbelievable that people think that it’s ok to blame the victim for the abuses he’s gone through.
Well, the last time he tried to leave and start over somewhere else, I recall it didn’t work out so well. Obviously, he told Milah about his father because they discussed him. One presumes she might have had some insight into why he might have been reluctant to go somewhere new if she could manage to think about anything but herself for 2 seconds… not that she seemed to have any sympathy about that.
Bae certainly wasn’t keeping her there, since she couldn’t be bothered to care for him and preferred to spend her time drinking at the local tavern… she left him easily enough to run off with Hook.
Rumple didn’t want to leave his son fatherless because of his own childhood trauma, so he panicked and made a decision that was not well thought out and was ridiculed for it. All Milah could see was that he made her an object of ridicule too instead of an honored war widow. She gave no thought to how desperate he must have felt or how much he must have loved her and their son to endure that just to get home to his family.
She was a selfish, cruel woman who wanted to punish Rumple for what she saw as his shortcomings. If she felt trapped it was likely because she didn’t want to leave without a better prospect to go to. If she’d left on her own, she might have had to take responsibility for her own unhappiness… and we can’t have that!
Spot on! I always love your analyses of things. I forgot that Milah knew at least SOMETHING about his father. So she surely must have known that “starting over” for them meant being abandoned.
I really think you’re right on her reasons for not leaving. It wasn’t because she had any ounce of caring for him. She enjoyed punishing him and didn’t want to set off on her own until something better came along. Hook was there for…what? One night. And she left the next morning with him. She was just waiting around for someone to leave with. Which is sad not only for Rumple, but for Bae, who she abandoned without any regrets.
To me Milah was even more heartless than Cora, because she knew the Rumple who was an insecure, abandoned child who tried so hard to put all of that behind him and build a good life with her… and she crushed him out of pure selfish spite, she made everything his father let him believe about himself true.
People who defend her and blame Rumple for how she treated him just make me want to scream and break things, because
yeah, nothing abusive here at all…
He freaking hobbled himself to come home to his family, to make sure his son knew the love of a father and this is the welcome his poor put upon in no way abusive wife gives him…
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no venom there, no disgust written like a neon sign across her face… and it’s not like she told him to do her a favor and die or anything…
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and here she is so scared of the Dark One and his murderous rage that she cowers and begs him not to hurt her while totally not spewing venom up in his face…
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no evidence of any form of hurt and shock at all in his eyes because of course he feels no betrayal at all that he suffered years of abuse at the hands of a woman he thought loved him until he proved himself unworthy…
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no kind of trigger there that might have caused him to act rashly when he actually found himself empowered… nothing but sweetness and light and rainbows from a sad, unhappy spouse who totally had her life ruined by him, and didn’t let him believe she’d been raped and possibly killed by pirates because he wasn’t enough of a man to save her
wow I just read through an amazing discussion about Milah!!!!!
here’s copy of some of it
(…)She was a selfish, cruel woman who wanted to punish Rumple for what she saw as his shortcomings. If she felt trapped it was likely because she didn’t want to leave without a better prospect to go to. If she’d left on her own, she might have had to take responsibility for her own unhappiness… and we can’t have that!
Wow, some harsh judgment based on so little facts.
I am always impressed, how people jump to conclusions and read a whole life time story out of pretty much nothing. Most of what is said is speculation and interpretation of the few facts we have. Like: We don’t know how much or how little Rumple told Milah about his father. He was known as the son of a coward. Possible Milah knew all the story, but as well possible she only knew he had a reputation and his father left him. It is not shown on the show, how much he told her. We don’t know how things were in the years between when Rumple came back home from the war and Milah leaving with Hook. Again: It is not shown. We know nothing about her background, maybe there are as good explanations for her reactions than there are for Rumple’s.
Milah was meant to look not sympathetic, because we got to see the story pretty much from Rumple’s point of view, and this was his story and not about Milah. Rumple blamed Milah for not supporting him, for leaving him and Bae, and he killed her for that. Yup, I know by then he was the Dark One, so what? That is an explanation and no excuse. Rumple is great in holding others responsible for their choices but if it comes to his choices it’s fate.
I am okay with people finding Rumple more understandable and sympathetic because his wife was not supportive and she was so selfish to have a different image of a happy life than Rumple. Yes, she was not mother of the year and left Bae, and she could have openly leave instead of pretty much sneak away. She did Rumple wrong. Okay.
What I don’t get: how people can develop so much hate for a (supporting and minor) character based on so little information.
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Yes, she was not mother of the year and left Bae, and she could have openly leave instead of pretty much sneak away. She did Rumple wrong. Okay. What I don’t get: how people can develop so much hate for a (supporting and minor) character based on so little information.
I think you answered your own question there. I think the hate towards Milah stems from the fact that Rumple is loved by so many fans. It really started to snowball after Desperate Souls and we learned why he became the Dark One and also later, why he needed the curse to come to our world. He became more sympathetic. So anyone who hurts him, fans automatically hate. Like Milah and Hook.
But IMO, Milah’s a lot easier to hate because we know so little about her. We know almost all of Hook’s backstory. There’s very few gaps.
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