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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
There is also the intriguing Hook/Neal dynamic to consider. In real life, Colin O’Donoghue and Michael Raymond-James became fast friends. We want to know what their on-screen history is. Does Neal know that Hook loved Neal’s mother (and took her away from her life with him and Rumple)? Do they have a history in Neverland? We’re supposed to discover their backstory in the first part of the two-part finale, but we want more now!
If we get Captain Hook through season 3, I will make this promise right here, right now: I will never miss another episode! I’ll DVR it if I have to, but I will not miss it!
@Sarah_TN wrote:
If we get Captain Hook through season 3, I will make this promise right here, right now: I will never miss another episode! I’ll DVR it if I have to, but I will not miss it!
Oh, I’m so with you on that!!! I will even pinky swear it! 😉
Hook is my fav too- it was Emma & Snow, now it’s Hook/Killian & Emma.
There is also the intriguing Hook/Neal dynamic to consider. In real life, Colin O’Donoghue and Michael Raymond-James became fast friends. We want to know what their on-screen history is. Does Neal know that Hook loved Neal’s mother (and took her away from her life with him and Rumple)? Do they have a history in Neverland? We’re supposed to discover their backstory in the first part of the two-part finale, but we want more now!
The thing I have against this article is- it’s incorrect. Killian (he wasn’t Hook at that stage, so I think keeping them separate is important), didn’t “take” Bae’s mother away from him- she fled Rumple under her own steam.
Never has Killian been portrayed as actually kidnapping Milah- it has been the opposite, she ran away after meeting them all at the… ‘pub/tavern’ place & falling in love with their stories of adventure & far off lands- something she wanted, something she tried to get Rumple to listen to, but he wouldn’t, so she left for her own good, as she couldn’t live life in the same small village, the wife of a coward, any longer- she laid it all out for us in ep 4.
Do I think it right of her to leave like she did- not a chance…but it was her CHOICE to make, not Killian’s.
I do agree with their last 2 statements- I want to see Hook’s backstory & Neal & Hook’s backstory … yesterday! 😉
@KFChimera wrote:
@Emma-Bae-Henry wrote:
I like the idea of Regina and Hook. I think they both have capacities to be good.. They are just so similar in burying themselves in revenge for losing love ones. For me, they are a very good looking bunch. Like it was posted in this thread earlier that they will be “hot” couple. Well, I am Rumpel’s fan…. He would say they will be “spicy one” 😆
I definitely see the parallels between Regina and Hook. Was there any chemistry (ease and banter) or attraction between them in the few scenes they have together? I did not see any, but then I think they both have lessons to learn that they could not learn together. It might be spicy but in that Cora/Rumpelle vein of a dark destructive thing if paired together at this point. It would be more screen time for Hook but I am not sure it would be comfortable to watch if they dragged each other into more darkness.
Yeah, I’d really dislike to see Regina & Hook together.
Agree with KF- they had no chemistry that I saw at all & it would just be plain uncomfortable to watch- like watching Regina hit on David 🙄 …. *shudders*Regina would do better with someone innately ‘chilled, kind & more introverted/quiet’ to support her, she is well damaged from being Cora’s daughter, to the point of convincing herself 10 yr old Snow was responsible for the death of Daniel, despite Cora killing Daniel in front of her own eyes- pretty sure she takes the ‘most screwed up award’ on Once so far & that’s not an easy title to claim lol 😉 😆 😆 😆
Personally I think Neal’s character would do better for Regina (as things stand now), than Hook’s- he’s to …’big/ gregarious & honor bound’ in personality for her- Hook’s reaction to Emma betraying him at the top of the beanstalk was genuine & what he told her in the cell was also true- he wouldn’t have left her up there, so Hook & Regina would be a total train wreak by day 2 given their personalities.
@Sarah_TN wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
To be honest I am real sick and tired of Hook, and Bella stories they don’t really add to the story or even really move it forward. Would like to get other FL characters more time on the screen. Good grief that Hook theme trying to kill Gold has really ran its course. As for Bella she is the 3rd person who lost her memories and I am really not impress with her as others are. This season to me has been really terrible and it looks like it might be worst if we continue to give screen time to these two in my opinon. Let’s get back to the main characters and theme.!!! 👿
I was so excited when I found out Hook is returning to the show at the end of the season, but hope he won’t only be featured in flashbacks. Given conversations at Paleyfest, I don’t think that’ll be what they do.
I hope Adam and Eddy will keep Captain Hook around for a long time. I’ll be very happy if he’s kept throughout season 3, and hopefully, for even longer, and I hope “Hook” will be featured in other present-day adventures outside of the current plot focused on revenge. Eventually, if even slowly or only partly, I’d like to see Hook be redeemed. I don’t want to loose one of my favorite characters on this show because if that happens, I’ll loose my favorite show too. I like Neal, but Hook’s not there. I liked Miller’s Daughter, but Hook’s absence has left an irreparable hole in the fabric of everything. Captain Hook redefined Once Upon A Time for me. That show will never be the same again.
Me too!
Neal has grown on me a little bit (I seriously disliked him in Tallahassee) but by ep 18, he’d grown on me a little- I like him a smidgen now (I think that’s because he’s starting to have Bae-ness come through, rather than just Neal) 😉
I find Hook’s story so much richer than Bae’s as well- Bae is mostly about forgiveness & courage- Hook is about that fine line between vengeance & justice, loyalty & obsession, forgiveness & letting go of lost love… very juicy stuff 🙂
@Surayya wrote:
Yeah, I’d really dislike to see Regina & Hook together.
Agree with KF- they had no chemistry that I saw at all & it would just be plain uncomfortable to watch- like watching Regina hit on David 🙄 …. *shudders*I found that uncomfortable because she was manipulating him and while we knew it, David didn’t. I don’t see Regina manipulating Hook in such a one-sided way (or Hook fooling Regina in terms of romance). I don’t dislike the idea of them per se, because I think any lasting pairing for either of them will involve some growth or change. I just don’t think they are likely to bring out the best in each other.
@Surayya wrote:
Regina would do better with someone innately ‘chilled, kind & more introverted/quiet’ to support her, she is well damaged from being Cora’s daughter, to the point of convincing herself 10 yr old Snow was responsible for the death of Daniel, despite Cora killing Daniel in front of her own eyes- pretty sure she takes the ‘most screwed up award’ on Once so far & that’s not an easy title to claim lol 😉 😆 😆 😆
Personally I think Neal’s character would do better for Regina (as things stand now), than Hook’s- he’s to …’big/ gregarious & honor bound’ in personality for her- Hook’s reaction to Emma betraying him at the top of the beanstalk was genuine & what he told her in the cell was also true- he wouldn’t have left her up there, so Hook & Regina would be a total train wreak by day 2 given their personalities.
Regina isn’t gregarious, but she does like to be the center of attention when she chooses (those outfits!). So I don’t see her with someone who is an introvert. Neal’s personality fits with Regina maybe even less than Hook’s does. I feel like she could manipulate Neal, just as Tamara is doing, but as I said, Hook could at least stand up to Regina. Neal seems like he avoids conflict, perhaps something that happened to him after Rumpel’s abandonment of him, and by fate having pushed him with then apart from Emma. The one thing he would have with Regina over Hook is a shared love for Henry, though I could see how Hook might have a soft spot for Henry for Milah’s sake.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@KFChimera wrote:
I found that uncomfortable because she was manipulating him and while we knew it, David didn’t. I don’t see Regina manipulating Hook in such a one-sided way (or Hook fooling Regina in terms of romance). I don’t dislike the idea of them per se, because I think any lasting pairing for either of them will involve some growth or change. I just don’t think they are likely to bring out the best in each other.
Different strokes for different folks I guess- I found Regina’s hitting on Charming just plain painful to watch.
Villains pairing together never ends well & Regina’s end game Happy ever after includes Henry- period.
Like Rumple & Belle, Regina is going to need someone innately ‘good’ to help her stay on the path of the ‘light’ side of the force 😉 2 villains pairing together (even ones trying for redemption) will result in wrong choices at every turn & take Henry further out of Regina’s reach imo.@KFChimera wrote:
Regina isn’t gregarious, but she does like to be the center of attention when she chooses (those outfits!). So I don’t see her with someone who is an introvert.
I agree with you on Regina (I think she likes to look impressive 😉 ), but by more introverted, I meant it by its definition- not as energized by crowds of people- nothing more.
@KFChimera wrote:
Neal’s personality fits with Regina maybe even less than Hook’s does. I feel like she could manipulate Neal, just as Tamara is doing, but as I said, Hook could at least stand up to Regina. Neal seems like he avoids conflict, perhaps something that happened to him after Rumpel’s abandonment of him, and by fate having pushed him with then apart from Emma. The one thing he would have with Regina over Hook is a shared love for Henry, though I could see how Hook might have a soft spot for Henry for Milah’s sake.
Again different strokes 😉 I don’t see her being able to do that- Bae grew up (at least in part) with the DarkOne as his papa- he knows all about being taken & manipulated by a loved one 1st hand (as does Regina) & Neal has already stood up to Rumple- he isn’t a total pushover…he was stealing high end watches etc after all- he isn’t that young innocent Bae anymore 😉
Add Regina being possessive, she holds tight to her loved ones, so someone who is gregarious is not going to suite her at all- it’d drive her nuts & cause friction.
Neal has also shown a remarkable capacity to let go of the past (he’d moved on enough from Emma to be engaged to Tamara- he was making a nice life for himself outside of Rumple/ magic, he’d also expect things of Regina which will help keep her challenged & wanting to be good), both have major evil parental issues, so they can relate there too, I see them as having similar circumstance, but like Emma & Hook, dealing with them at the opposite ends of the scale 😉
Hook doesn’t let go easily, Regina never lets anything go, both are forgiveness challenged- what happens at their 1st fight…neither would get past the other doing whatever & wouldn’t be able to forgive the other for it.
Neal’s more chilled personality is a nice counter balance to Regina’s hot one, Hook’s is too similar in the wrong ways to have it work out well IMO.I see Hook & Emma being very similar, but coping by running to the opposite ends of field- Emma closes down & backs away, Hook slaps on guyliner, goes out & flirts with every female in 3 worlds 😉
They tend to balance each other out from what we’ve seen so far.
If not romantically involved, I could see those 2 at least being best friends- they understand & ‘get’ each other, people like that in your life don’t happen very often & tend to be the special 1’s you hold on too.But we digress from the thread topic, so shall we agree to disagree with these 4 & simply agree Hook is awesome & that we cant wait for more of his back story (I especially want a how Killian became a pirate- that’s my #1 backstory hope of next season) & how he & Neal know each other together.
We disagree about the personalities of all the characters to one extent or another. I do agree that we need more backstory on Hook, and I am particularly interested in seeing how he interacted with Neal.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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