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February 16, 2013 at 7:41 am #135992lisasParticipant
After reading this I can’t wait for Sunday
Taken from Matt Mitovich at TVLine.com
http://tvline.com/2013/02/15/once-upon-time-season-2-spoilers-rumplestiltskin-emma-bae/
Preview: Once Upon a Time’s Search for Bae Will Leave Viewers ‘In a Tumultuous Situation’
This Sunday on Once Upon a Time (ABC, 8/7c), though Mr. Gold and Emma’s jaunt to New York City is at the fore, flashbacks to Rumplestiltskin in the fairytale land that was will leave viewers of the series with a most unwelcome souvenir.
But first, there’s the matter of finding Rumple’s son Baelfire, who apparently wound up in the Big Apple after being sent to our realm — without his father — in Season 1′s “The Return.”
“When I first read this script, it sort of felt like a season finale,” raves Jennifer Morrison, whose onetime bail bondswoman helps suss out Bae. “So much that has been building up for so long happens all at once in this episode. It’s definitely a payoff to a lot of questions.”
Of course, forever-speculating Once fans have their theories on Bae. But as Rumplestiltskin (played by Robert Carlyle) learns this week in flashback, just because you think you know what’s going to happen, that doesn’t mean you know what’s going to happen. “That is really true,” Morrison affirms. “[Series creators] Eddy [Kitsis] and Adam [Horowitz] did an incredible job of setting up the circumstances for everything to come out in a very particular way. I didn’t see it all coming this way at all.”Because, for example, if Rumplestiltskin reunites with his boy, it won’t necessarily be “happy to see me.” Instead, a rather complicated father/son talk may be on tap. Morrison, for one, is a huge fan of delving into such dysfunction. “What drew me to this show in the first place, and what I always loved the most about it, is when we go deeper into the relationships of the people that we got to know initially,” she says.
Giving the storyline added gravitas is the fact that it plays out away from Storybrooke in New York City, an environment without magic (sparkly Times Square billboards notwithstanding). So when words need to be had and as problems demand to be hashed out, Once transforms into (almost) your typical TV drama.
“That is a big difference about this particular episode,” Morrison notes. “On this show there is a lot of heightened, sort of fantastical elements, so it is an interesting relief to ‘take a breath’ in the real world, where there is no magical solution to something. It’s just real people with real problems, and they’re going to have to deal with it.”
All told, Morrison says that when father and son do come face to face, “It’s incredibly emotional” — for Rumple, at least. For Bae, however, “It’s everything he’s worked so hard to avoid for his entire life. So, there’s conflict and love going on at the same time in that moment.”
Speaking of conflict: As alluded to above, the episode’s flashbacks pack as much of a punch as the New York City story, when Rumplestiltskin’s stint in the Ogre Wars is rerouted by a run-in with a blind seer. That storyline plays out in a way that not only explains how things went sour between the spinner and his wife Milah (and reveals where he got his limp), but also drops in viewers’ laps a bombshell they never saw coming nor thought to expect.
“It definitely puts the audience in a very tumultuous situation, in terms of being in on that piece of information and constantly sort of waiting for this thing to jump out around the corner,” Morrison teases. “It’s an incredible element of suspense that’s been built into upcoming episodes.”
[adrotate group="5"]February 16, 2013 at 1:29 pm #173652RumplesGirlKeymasterAll told, Morrison says that when father and son do come face to face, “It’s incredibly emotional” — for Rumple, at least. For Bae, however, “It’s everything he’s worked so hard to avoid for his entire life. So, there’s conflict and love going on at the same time in that moment.”
I think this is what I’m most looking forward to, more than anything. Robert Carlyle is a genius and I think how he and MRJ play this scene will be both nail bitting and a sob fest.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 16, 2013 at 6:16 pm #173664jessistaParticipantWhat I don’t understand is what is it that Bae would have been working to avoid his whole life? Magic? The Prophecy? If it is magic, that’s not really something he would have run from “his whole life”. And if it’s the prophecy, how does seeing Rumple bring this all back to the fore? I understand he would be mad at Rumple, and may not really want to talk to him and/or see him, but Rumple in and of himself wouldn’t be something he would have “worked so hard to avoid for his entire life”. Aaaah, the suspense!
February 16, 2013 at 6:52 pm #173668laurieanneParticipantI agree with you about the suspense…they have done a good job of hiding all the spoilers so that (most) people will be truly surprised when the episode airs tomorrow night! Because we don’t really know anything about Bae since he went through the portal, other than the fact that he called Rumple a coward, we don’t really know much about his character, until we see him (supposedly…) as adult Neal. If the premise is that we are all longing for our true family, then this is no doubt about the process that each character will go through to achieve that. I don’t expect any of this to be tied up in a neat bundle in two or three episodes. That’s not how it works in “real life” –hopefully this is part of a long range arc that will reveal lots more about our favorite characters.
February 17, 2013 at 12:46 am #173689SlurpeezParticipantAll told, Morrison says that when father and son do come face to face, “It’s incredibly emotional” — for Rumple, at least. For Bae, however, “It’s everything he’s worked so hard to avoid for his entire life. So, there’s conflict and love going on at the same time in that moment.”
@jessista wrote:
What I don’t understand is what is it that Bae would have been working to avoid his whole life? Magic? The Prophecy? If it is magic, that’s not really something he would have run from “his whole life”. And if it’s the prophecy, how does seeing Rumple bring this all back to the fore? I understand he would be mad at Rumple, and may not really want to talk to him and/or see him, but Rumple in and of himself wouldn’t be something he would have “worked so hard to avoid for his entire life”. Aaaah, the suspense!
I agree with your train of thought here. It’s not the case that Baelfire is simply running from magic, because there is no magic in our world prior to Rumple bringing magic to SB. Therefore, I think Baelfire must know something about the prophesy that the seer foretold Rumple. Bae must know that Rumple has been searching for him, and has been on the run from his dad ever since. There were some spoiler tweets which suggest that Rumple knew Baelfire was adept at running and that he wanted the element of surprise to catch his son off guard this time. Somehow, Baelfire still knew when Emma buzzed in that she didn’t really have a delivery and so bolted so as not to come face to face with Rumple.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 17, 2013 at 4:01 am #173694PheeParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
Bae must know that Rumple has been searching for him, and has been on the run from his dad ever since.
Which is why I’m still wondering if perhaps the leaked script lines where Rumple is yelling at someone for breaking a deal with him may actually be him yelling at Nealfire, who still wants nothing to do with him, even though he’s now without magic. Of course, it makes sense if Rumple says that to Emma too, if she fails to convince Nealfire to talk to him, but I’ve got a nagging feeling that that assumption may be too obvious.
February 17, 2013 at 4:34 am #173697lisasParticipantIs it possible that August could know that Neal is Baelfire ? If the theory about the Blue Fairy proves to be correct couldn’t she have told August to find him and warn him that Rumple is searching for him ?
February 17, 2013 at 4:49 am #173700angiebelleParticipantYes, I think August does know Neal is Bae…how else would he even know Rumple had a son when he faked him out last season. It’s not common knowledge.
February 17, 2013 at 4:55 am #173701lisasParticipant@AngieBelle wrote:
Yes, I think August does know Neal is Bae…how else would he even know Rumple had a son when he faked him out last season. It’s not common knowledge.
Question is who told him ? The Blue Fairy ?
February 17, 2013 at 5:06 am #173704code1125Participant@LisaS wrote:
@AngieBelle wrote:
Yes, I think August does know Neal is Bae…how else would he even know Rumple had a son when he faked him out last season. It’s not common knowledge.
Question is who told him ? The Blue Fairy ?
I think August told Neal he was Pinocchio, so that prompted Neal to say he was Baelfire. That’s what I assumed. But what I do think is that August didn’t tell Bae that he was going to see his father.
A new theory just popped into my head: What if the item inside August’s box that he showed Neal was a magic bean? Neal would instantly recognize that as magical and know for a fact that August knows what he’s talking about! But the question is, how did August obtain one?
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