More Spoilers for Season 2

[a chipped cup]

@hjbau wrote:

I think that Rumpel came home after he ran off and everyone died in the battle. And his wife left him. And he killed her. And took Bae. And Bae may be his child or not. Because Rumpel never denied any of those accusations when they were thrown at him.

Wait, why would Rumpel ran away from battle and then kill his wife? 😆 And Rumpel was never accused of killing his wife. So, how could he confirm or deny it? That’s just your own personal speculation.

And besides, I think the mystery woman in episode 4 is his wife.

[midnight dreary]

I think the bored housewife from the spoilers is going to be Rumpel’s first wife. The fact that both she and Rumpel are connected to Captain Hook’s storyline is a big clue. And on top of that, all three will be appearing the same Rumpel centric episode. I believe it’s episode 4.

Personally, I think Rumpel’s first wife ran off with Captain Hook and left little Bae behind. That’s why he was too afraid to answer Bae’s question about what happened to her. He was too ashamed to tell him that his mother ran off with another man. That’s the story the evil knight told in “Desperate Souls”. That Bae’s mother ran off with another man out of shame for her husband. And with all these new spoilers coming out, it sounds like he might have been right.

[PriceofMagic]

I don’t think Rumple killed his first wife because, at the time ,he was such a coward that he didn’t have it in him. I think Rumple was telling Bae the truth about his mother being dead, he just conveniently left out the part where she ran off with another man beforehand.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[antbee]

@Phee wrote:

I’m not convinced that Hook’s hook will actually be in Mr Gold’s shop, I suspect that was just an interesting way for them to shoot a promo for the Hook reveal. But I also suspect that Hook stole Rumple’s wife back in the day, so that’s how I’m gonna explain them having scenes together. 😉

Yes, I think it was just suppose to be a cool promo since Colin O’Donoghue hadn’t even been cast at that time. I also agree though that I think Milha was Rumple’s wife, and that’s how he and Hook will be connected in episode 4.

And I suspect maybe we haven’t had casting info for Milha because they had to cast someone who looks like she’s Bae’s mother, so they didn’t want her face known beforehand. You can’t fool me, Adam and Eddy. I don’t need to see someone’s face to be able to figure out who they are! 😛

It is weird why they won’t reveal who they’ve cast in that role since presumably the actress already must have been cast since this is the episode that she’s suppose to appear in. I wonder if they found someone who looks incredibly like Dylan Schmid and/or Michael Raymond-James, and that’s why they’re keeping it under wraps because unless the actress looks a lot like either of those two actors, I would just assume that Bae took after Rumple or whoever his biological dad might be.

I’ll bet August is still gonna be a big ole’ block of wood in that bed, and it’ll take Mother Superior to make him real again.

This makes sense especially if they’re planning on reducing Eion Bailey’s role. I wonder if he would have stayed as a regular maybe they would have held off more on bringing in Henry’s dad and/or Bae so soon.

And I’ve also got my money on MRJ’s character being Henry’s bio-dad, which would make for a nice little recurring theme in a few eps at the start of the season.

Michael Raymond James turning out to be Bae and Henry’s dad would definitely fit in with the recurring theme of reunions that the first three to four episodes seem to be having based on the spoilers.

Let’s see, the reunions that we’ll see in the first three episodes:
1. Emma, Henry, Snow, and Charming
2. Charming and his mother (I guess they can’t all be happy reunions.)
3. Jefferson and his daughter
4. Probably Gepetto and August
5. Possibly Rumple, Bae, and Henry (Most likely the latter two, maybe not the former two yet.)

I don’t think Rumple killed his first wife because, at the time ,he was such a coward that he didn’t have it in him. I think Rumple was telling Bae the truth about his mother being dead, he just conveniently left out the part where she ran off with another man beforehand.

The more I think about it, the more I think Josephine was right in that Milha’s story is going to be like the folk song the “House Carpenter” that way fandom won’t hate Rumple’s ex/Bae’s wife anymore than they already do. It still makes her look bad that she ran off from her husband and son, but if she later regretted and ended up dying, then I think it makes her a lot more sympathetic. It would probably also make people feel even worse for poor Bae who might have the worst sob story out of all the characters, so if he did turn out to be a really, really huge jerk, maybe they’ll be willing to forgive him.

Thanks Antbee for the link. Turn against their own kind sounds like a fairy to me, but who knows. And you are right that the description is probably suspect, but they do usually have someone turn traitor in shows. It seems very unlikely that it would be Red or Granny to me. They may just mean Jefferson joining and helping Charming. Who knows.

You’re welcome. You’re right it could be someone turning against Regina and/or Rumple not necessarily one of the “good” guys turning against them. I suspect if the show runs long enough, we’ll see both scenarios happen at least once.

[hjbau]

@A Chipped Cup wrote:

Wait, why would Rumpel ran away from battle and then kill his wife? And Rumpel was never accused of killing his wife. So, how could he confirm or deny it? That’s just your own personal speculation.

Riiiight. The speculation part was that he killed his wife. All the rest of it was said in the episode. And Rumpel did not deny any of it. Hopefully that makes sense to you now since it didn’t before. And i agree that the wife is most likely dead since i am speculating that he killed her.

[thedarkone]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I don’t think Rumple killed his first wife because, at the time ,he was such a coward that he didn’t have it in him. I think Rumple was telling Bae the truth about his mother being dead, he just conveniently left out the part where she ran off with another man beforehand.

I agree. If Rumpel was too afraid to fight in a war, I don’t really see how he’d be able to murder his own wife. It doesn’t add up.

And I’ll wait to see how Rumpel’s wife if portrayed on the show before judging her. If she really was just a bored housewife who abandoned her own husband and child, then I won’t have much sympathy for her. Hopefully, there’s more to her story than that. Because I can already see the horde of fangirls ready to tear her apart. 😆

[PriceofMagic]

@TheDarkOne wrote:

And I’ll wait to see how Rumpel’s wife if portrayed on the show before judging her. If she really was just a bored housewife who abandoned her own husband and child, then I won’t have much sympathy for her. Hopefully, there’s more to her story than that. Because I can already see the horde of fangirls ready to tear her apart. 😆

I don’t think the audience is going to have much sympathy for her anyway. Compare how Snow’s dead mother is talked about in contrast to Rumple’s first wife. Leopold talks about Snow’s mother with love and fondness and you get the sense that she was the love of his life and Regina is just the substitute mother for Snow. Rumple’s wife is barely mentioned and what little we do know about her is that she left Rumple because of his cowardice and she may have conceived Bae with another man whilst still married to Rumple. Perhaps the affair was ongoing whilst Rumple was away at the ogre wars and his return was rather inconvenient for her. I think it said in an interview somewhere that Rumple was going to have a hard time believing that Belle could actually love him so maybe that would relate back to his first wife.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[midnight dreary]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

@TheDarkOne wrote:

And I’ll wait to see how Rumpel’s wife if portrayed on the show before judging her. If she really was just a bored housewife who abandoned her own husband and child, then I won’t have much sympathy for her. Hopefully, there’s more to her story than that. Because I can already see the horde of fangirls ready to tear her apart. 😆

I don’t think the audience is going to have much sympathy for her anyway. Compare how Snow’s dead mother is talked about in contrast to Rumple’s first wife. Leopold talks about Snow’s mother with love and fondness and you get the sense that she was the love of his life and Regina is just the substitute mother for Snow. Rumple’s wife is barely mentioned and what little we do know about her is that she left Rumple because of his cowardice and she may have conceived Bae with another man whilst still married to Rumple. Perhaps the affair was ongoing whilst Rumple was away at the ogre wars and his return was rather inconvenient for her. I think it said in an interview somewhere that Rumple was going to have a hard time believing that Belle could actually love him so maybe that would relate back to his first wife.

That’s my thinking as well. Rumpel probably didn’t feel that anyone else could love him because his first wife left him for another man,

[elle]

I also agree that he did not kill his wife, simply because that Knight said so himself that she ran off, and he seemed too scared to be able to do kill anyone. The only reason he killed the former Dark One was for two reasons–one, for Baelfire and all the other children in war. Second, Zoso goaded him with the fact that Baelfire might not be his son, and that enraged him enough to do the act.

Speaking of which, since many are convinced that Rumpelstiltskin's wife ran off with Captain Hook (not sure about that theory, but I digress) could it also be speculated that Captain Hook is Baelfire's biological father?

I think August will still be wooden–magic may be back, but he still did not act as he was instructed to. That won’t be taken back. Which also brings up the traitor–my brother and I thought of Gepetto. He may be desperate to help his son, and he may be willing to go to either Rumpelstiltskin or Regina for help. 🙁

There is also the favor that Emma owes Mr. Gold. She may be forced to do something that could be seen as a betrayal. I don’t think Emma would be forced into something nefarious, but it is a possibility.

[lilred]

The thing is, I don’t trust Gepetto. We already know that he’s worked behind the scenes for his own happiness. Although I find it hard to dislike him because he chose his son over the world, it wouldn’t be a shock if he finds August (still in wooden form), is for some reason turned away by the Blue Fairy, and turns to Regina out of desperation (maybe mirroring the father/son desperate souls dynamics.)

I’m intrigued by the possibility of Emma, the savior, turing against her own. Is there a bigger shocker than Emma being the traitor? Now that magics back, I’m sure reneging on a deal with Rumpelstiltskin is impossible.

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