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HELL YES!!! I am way too excited right now. I’ve got to calm down. 😆
Ok, I really do think this character is Baelfire. Like…a lot. My evidence?
–He’s running away from his past in a dangerous land – Baelfire definitely has a dark past to run away from. His father is the freaking Dark One for God’s sake! And I can totally see him viewing our world as a dangerous new land. Guns, bombs, technology, ect. It’s all very foreign to him.
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–Baelfire was given a magic bean by the Blue Fairy – You know, the infamous magic bean from the Jack and the Beanstalk story. It’s a pretty big clue that probably shouldn’t be overlooked people. 😆
[adrotate group="5"]I’m trying to wrap my head around this, who else is technically a guest star with option in ONCE? Does ‘option’ just mean it has the possibility of joining main cast? If so, makes sense that’s how they’ll bring Baelfire in, then add him to the main cast NEXT season.
@Lil’Red wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around this, who else is technically a guest star with option in ONCE? Does ‘option’ just mean it has the possibility of joining main cast? If so, makes sense that’s how they’ll bring Baelfire in, then add him to the main cast NEXT season.
It’s probably just a red herring. They can’t say this character is going to become a series regular or a recurring character without spoiling it a bit. But then again, this fandom has done a pretty good job figuring things out so far So, the show is screwed either way. 😆
@*The Looking Glass* wrote:
@Lil’Red wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around this, who else is technically a guest star with option in ONCE? Does ‘option’ just mean it has the possibility of joining main cast? If so, makes sense that’s how they’ll bring Baelfire in, then add him to the main cast NEXT season.
It’s probably just a red herring. They can’t say this character is going to become a series regular or a recurring character without spoiling it a bit. But then again, this fandom has done a pretty good job figuring things out so far So, the show is screwed either way. 😆
That’s what I was thinking! I love how they give us a ten year age gap with this character! He could be in so many different places in life when we meet him: imagine a 21 year old vs. 36? 😯
Yeah, the description says 20s or 30s. Dude, that’s an entire decade difference. 😆 I think the writers are trying to screw with us.
@Lil’Red wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around this, who else is technically a guest star with option in ONCE? Does ‘option’ just mean it has the possibility of joining main cast? If so, makes sense that’s how they’ll bring Baelfire in, then add him to the main cast NEXT season.
I think Barbara Hershey might have been referred to as a guest star for season 1 with the option to bring her back. And she’s obviously a character that they always had plans for, beyond one guest starring episode.
The name Jack certainly does scream, “guy who used a magic bean,” and the stuff about fleeing a dangerous land fits too, so it wouldn’t surprise me if this is Bae. “Charismatic, sexy and mysterious, but also loyal and kind,” doesn’t exactly sound like the horrible guy that Emma has led us to believe was Henry’s father though. And I’ve always imagined Henry’s father was a bit older than Emma, so the age wouldn’t really fit for that either. So if I’m gonna go with this Jack character being Bae, I’m also going with Bae not being Henry’s father.
^Well, that’s the thing. Maybe Bae isn’t Henry’s father. Maybe he’s only Jack from the Jack and the Beanstalk story. We don’t have any hard evidence for Bae being Henry’s father. But before this casting call came out, I was convinced that it was still true. But after reading the description, he may not be Henry’s father at all. We already know that Bae’s story shares some similarites with the Jack and the Beanstalk story. The big similarity being the magic bean. And now on top of that, we have this description of Jack that sounds an awful lot like Baelfire. Especially the “running away from his past in a dangerous land.”
He may not be Henry’s father at all. That’s just head canon for the time being. There’s more evidence pointing to him being Jack at the moment. But we’ll have to wait and see.
@Lil’Red wrote:
Told myself I wouldn’t be an annoying fangirl and freak out ever time a new, dark, mysterious, sexy man comes to town chanting BAELFIRE….Seriously though, does sound like Baelfire to me! My head canon has him as JACK but I’m wondering if tomorrow they’ll release another character that could be Bae…and the day after that…and the day after that….
I know I thought I wouldn’t do this either, but I couldn’t help myself because the description sounds so much like what I think an adult!Bae would sound like especially the part about “running from his past in a land full of danger”.
-He’s running away from his past in a dangerous land – Baelfire definitely has a dark past to run away from. His father is the freaking Dark One for God’s sake! And I can totally see him viewing our world as a dangerous new land. Guns, bombs, technology, ect. It’s all very foreign to him.
Yes, I wonder if that means he’s running away from his Enchanted Forest past and Earth is the land full of danger, or if it means that he’s running from his Earth past in Storybrooke that now has magic in it, if he is Bae, since he may have gotten involved in some sort of criminal activity like Emma and August did.
It’s probably just a red herring. They can’t say this character is going to become a series regular or a recurring character without spoiling it a bit. But then again, this fandom has done a pretty good job figuring things out so far So, the show is screwed either way.
That’s what I think too, but I’m not sure if it really means that or not.
He may not be Henry’s father at all. That’s just head canon for the time being. There’s more evidence pointing to him being Jack at the moment. But we’ll have to wait and see.
True, while my head canon is that he’s Henry’s father, there’s certainly more clues that he’s Jack of the Jack and the Beanstalk story at the moment because of his making the bad deal with dad could be a twist on the bad deal or at least what Jack’s mom thought was a bad deal that Jack made for their family cow for the beans. Of course, there’s obviously the magic bean link connecting Bae and Jack that none of the other male characters have. The magic bean took Bae to a different land just like the magic beans took Jack to a different land. I could also see Bae feeling like he landed in a land full of giants (giant people, giant buildings, giant cities) if he landed in a city like Boston in the past 28 years.
Finally, given the other descriptions that they’re looking for in “Jack’s” character, even if he isn’t Henry’s father, I think that they’re planning on pairing Bae/Jack with Emma. Even if Jack isn’t Bae, although I’m like 75% confident that he will turn out to be Bae, I think they’ll still pair him up with Emma. Or at least try to, although, I guess they could change their minds because I thought when August was first introduced, I read something about him being Emma’s eventual love interest, but I don’t know now if that was just someone guessing or an actual spoiler because if it was a spoiler, it seems like they went a different direction maybe because August never caught on as a character like Graham and Jefferson did, or for whatever reason.
I would like to point out one interesting thing: Jack is another morally ambiguous character from fairytales. His heroism in his story is HIGHLY controversial-still. He was labeled a hero but stole and later murdered the ‘giant’ who gave him food and shelter, leaving the ‘giant’s wife’ (who was nothing but kind to him) penniless and husbandless…
In the story’s history, many things had been added to paint him in a more heroic light but Jim Henson himself refused to make Jack look like a victim and then have him be the conquering hero. Jack wasn’t a hero in his eyes, based on his actions. “Not a hero” seems to be the only fact known about Henry’s dad – I even think this could be a quote from Jim Henson about Jack. Even if this character has the traits of being kind and loyal (very young Baelfire traits) it doesn’t mean they’ll be on the surface.
I can’t see a modern adaption of Jack being a hero, and I can’t see the creators never reading Jim Henson’s thoughts on the character and going from there on. Even the elements taken from the story have to include thievery and murder. This guy might not be a ‘great guy’ right off the back – but they seem to set him up with the potential to be. Someone might have some redeeming to do!
He may not be Henry’s father at all. That’s just head canon for the time being. There’s more evidence pointing to him being Jack at the moment. But we’ll have to wait and see.
True, while my head canon is that he’s Henry’s father, there’s certainly more clues that he’s Jack of the Jack and the Beanstalk story at the moment because of his making the bad deal with dad could be a twist on the bad deal or at least what Jack’s mom thought was a bad deal that Jack made for their family cow for the beans. Of course, there’s obviously the magic bean link connecting Bae and Jack that none of the other male characters have. The magic bean took Bae to a different land just like the magic beans took Jack to a different land. I could also see Bae feeling like he landed in a land full of giants (giant people, giant buildings, giant cities) if he landed in a city like Boston in the past 28 years.
The Jack and The Beanstalk story also screams “Baelfire” to me-they both share a lot of similarities. But the Blue Fairy also said that the rest of the magic beans were lost, and she gave Bae the last one. This could be a continuation of Bae’s story, or be about Jack-the guy who lost the rest of the magic beans.
@Lil’Red wrote:
I can’t see a modern adaption of Jack being a hero, and I can’t see the creators never reading Jim Henson’s thoughts on the character and going from there on. Even the elements taken from the story have to include thievery and murder. This guy might not be a ‘great guy’ right off the back – but they seem to set him up with the potential to be. Someone might have some redeeming to do!
He just might be. The last representation of him I’ve seen was from the Fables series, and he definitely was a morally ambiguous character. He was selfish, a womanizer, a con artist, and a deadbeat. I really didn’t like his character.
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