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November 23, 2012 at 10:23 am #161815PheeParticipant
This version of the link should be clickable: http://www.youtube.com/embed/szs7tVu8qmU
@Jolean wrote:
there is a point where Regina asks mr gold where he found Henry and he grins like he knew. do u remember that?
That happened after Mr Gold had met Emma and remembered and been able to put the pieces together. Before he met Emma and heard her name, he had no idea that Henry was Snow and Charming’s grandson.
I personally think that Blue Fairy/Mother Superior kept her memories, kept tabs on Emma, and found out about the baby. Then she put the idea into Regina’s head to adopt a baby, then Regina went to Mr Gold coz Rumple deals the baby trade, then Mr Gold went to Mother Superior, who, as head nun, would likely know of any orphans in need of adoption. Then Mother Superior was the one who arranged for Henry to come to town, but Regina doesn’t know that, which is why she was questioning Mr Gold.
Dunno that I buy into August having been part of the plan to bring Henry to town, because I think that once he’d gone to Phuket, (which he did while Emma was pregnant), he stayed there until he got the leg pains 10 years later. I certainly think he was acting as Blue’s messenger boy when it came to his actions in Tallahassee though, so I do think he has a history of working for her. I just don’t think he’d have come back from his Pleasure Island to help her again with baby Henry. Then again, I didn’t think he was the one who’d sent the postcard, (thought it was Blue), even when a bunch of people suggested it, and look how wrong I was with that one. 😛 I love me some August, so won’t complain if they do work him into the storyline more than I’m expecting.
[adrotate group="5"]November 23, 2012 at 12:26 pm #161817frumpybutsupersmartParticipant@Phee wrote:
This version of the link should be clickable: http://www.youtube.com/embed/szs7tVu8qmU
@Jolean wrote:
there is a point where Regina asks mr gold where he found Henry and he grins like he knew. do u remember that?
That happened after Mr Gold had met Emma and remembered and been able to put the pieces together. Before he met Emma and heard her name, he had no idea that Henry was Snow and Charming’s grandson.
That conversation between Regina and Rumpel happened after he remembered, though. The actual baby-adopting happened before.
I personally think that Blue Fairy/Mother Superior kept her memories, kept tabs on Emma, and found out about the baby. Then she put the idea into Regina’s head to adopt a baby, then Regina went to Mr Gold coz Rumple deals the baby trade, then Mr Gold went to Mother Superior, who, as head nun, would likely know of any orphans in need of adoption. Then Mother Superior was the one who arranged for Henry to come to town, but Regina doesn’t know that, which is why she was questioning Mr Gold.
I don’t think Gold would have gone to Mother Superior for anything – remember how much Rumpel hates fairies? That would probably have carried over into Mr Gold, although there’s no way to be sure 😡
Dunno that I buy into August having been part of the plan to bring Henry to town, because I think that once he’d gone to Phuket, (which he did while Emma was pregnant), he stayed there until he got the leg pains 10 years later. I certainly think he was acting as Blue’s messenger boy when it came to his actions in Tallahassee though, so I do think he has a history of working for her. I just don’t think he’d have come back from his Pleasure Island to help her again with baby Henry. Then again, I didn’t think he was the one who’d sent the postcard, (thought it was Blue), even when a bunch of people suggested it, and look how wrong I was with that one. 😛 I love me some August, so won’t complain if they do work him into the storyline more than I’m expecting.
Didn’t August say something to Ruby about going to Nepal, though? If he went and travelled for a bit he might have stopped by America in time for Henry’s birth and adoption. I don’t know – the thought of the Blue Fairy being that manipulative just makes me uncomfortable so I’m probably looking for ways to make her more stereotypically fairy-like 😛
November 23, 2012 at 12:51 pm #161818joleanParticipantthanks.
that video shows the thing I was talking about where regina asked where he got henry.making it look like he knowsNovember 23, 2012 at 2:06 pm #161819gypsyParticipantAlso, in the S1 finale, Gold tells Emma about the ‘True Love’ potion. He says when he created the Dark Curse, he added a single drop as a ‘safety valve’.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he added many ‘safety valves’ to the curse.
Names are important to Rumplestiltskin.
When Gold discussed the adoption with Regina in the pilot (after he got his memory back), he mentioned the fact that she named him Henry- asked her how she picked the name..which we know was her father’s name.
I think it may be a combination of a safety valve in the Dark Curse and the name Henry that allowed Gold to ‘procure’ him for adoption by Regina- even tho Gold/Rumple didn’t have his memories at the time of the adoption.
November 23, 2012 at 3:42 pm #161821hooks spyglassParticipantbut, Regina named him Henry. so I dont see how that adds. I wonder if he used the “please” clause to make Regina adopt Henry and if he did how did he know it was Emma’s baby? It could not have been via August Gold would have reconized him when he came back, unless it was via postcard 😉 maybe this Barret character arranged it ?/???? maybe thats how he fits in with everything? idk…… 😡
November 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm #161822gypsyParticipantI don’t think Gold/Rumple was able to use the please clause til after he got his memory….in the pilot when he says please to Regina, I think that was the first time he used it because it was after he got his memory back.
November 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm #161787Killian JonesParticipantOops sorry about that I didn’t check to make sure what I posted works I fixed it now
November 23, 2012 at 9:44 pm #161863evilqueenParticipantOk, so I think that Gold didn’t really know what he was doing when he brought Henry to SB – or at least not EXACTLY what he was doing. I think that somehow Rumplestiltskin must have left himself, Mr Gold, some sort of anchor that would guide him to Henry but he, Mr Gold, didn’t know the details of it, he knew he had to do this but didn’t know why. I think that smirk when Regina asked him was just about that – he smiled at the fact that he actually outsmarted the curse again and he did it, even though he wasn’t himself.
November 23, 2012 at 9:48 pm #161864the fairestParticipantI’m beginning to think that August set up Henry’s adoption. He’s played such a large part in Emma’s life already, so it would make sense if he were involved in this too.
November 24, 2012 at 7:59 am #161954Killian JonesParticipant@EvilQueen wrote:
Ok, so I think that Gold didn’t really know what he was doing when he brought Henry to SB – or at least not EXACTLY what he was doing. I think that somehow Rumplestiltskin must have left himself, Mr Gold, some sort of anchor that would guide him to Henry but he, Mr Gold, didn’t know the details of it, he knew he had to do this but didn’t know why. I think that smirk when Regina asked him was just about that – he smiled at the fact that he actually outsmarted the curse again and he did it, even though he wasn’t himself.
That’s a good theory, leaving himself a set of instructions to follow to make sure things would play out the way he intended. He can see the future so he could have known that Emma would have Henry and that he could use Henry to lure Emma to Storybrooke. It’s really gonna be interesting to find out exactly how Henry got to Storybrooke.
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