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@Lissy wrote:
You know a show is must be good when people become this invested in the characters 😉
I just wanted to throw out there that I think through all the bad deads Rumple has done, he is willing to redeem himself for Belle and his son. Do you guys think he can be forgiven? What must he do to fully redeem himself?Good point. Only a truly brilliant show could us riled up like this. 😀
I think he can be redeemed but only through the love of his son and Belle. Those are the only two people Rumpel ever truly loved, and it will be their love that will bring back into the light. Even though I would love to see him willingly work with Emma and Mary Margaret, I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Rumpel will only make sacrifices for those he truly cares about. Hopefully, after enough time has passed, he’ll become attached to the town its residence. It would be nice to see him be the “good guy.” But that wouldn’t be terribly realistic, would it?
I kind of see Rumpel’s eventual fate ending like Spike’s from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He spent his entire life being selfish and violent, but in the end, he made the ultimate sacrifice and gave his life up for the greater good. I would like to see that happen to Rumpel.
[adrotate group="5"]I think we’re all going to have to agree to disagree on this one. A lot of our assumptions are just that: Assumptions. It’s still way too early to try to guess where Rumpel’s character will go. We don’t know what happened to Baelfire, we don’t know what happened to his first wife, and we don’t know his reasoning behind making the Dark Curse. Judging by the interviews with Robert Carlyle, the writers and the producers, there’s a lot more story to tell with Rumpel and the Dark Curse. I think one of the producers even hinted that Rumpel didn’t create the Dark Curse for evil, but for something else.
Like Midnight Dreary stated, Rumpel could end up like Spike. Redeeming himself in the last minutes of the entire series.
Ok, how about a change of topic? 😀
What direction do you think the writers will take Rumpel/Mr. Gold’s character in season 2? I know it all depends on how season 1 ends, but it’s fun to predict the future.
Hello Rumpel lovers! I’m new here, so please bare with me. I’ll try to answer 1 or 2 questions from the OP. 😉
1. What was Rumpelstiltskin’s reasoning for creating the Dark Curse?
I think Rumpel’s reasoning behind creating the Dark Curse are much different from the Evil Queen’s reasoning for casting the Dark Curse. I think Rumpel created the curse for himself rather than pure evil. The Evil Queen on the other hand is using it as a weapon for evil. I like the theory that Rumpel gave the Evil Queen the wrong ingredients as a means to not only protect the real curse and his own power, but for revenge on the Evil Queen for turning Belle against him. I think we’ll find out towards the end of the season that the real key ingredient to the Dark Curse was in fact true love, and not the heart of the person you love most. Rumpel wouldn’t have even been able to test the curse himself because aeveryone he loved was dead. So, I think Rumpel pulled a fast one over Regina. 😉
11. What happened to Rumpelstiltskin’s son Bae?
I love the theory that Baelfire ran away to join the fairies in Neverland and became Peter Pan. He’s the perfect candidate for a Lost Boy. For one, he’s a little boy. 😆 And two, he probably became disillusioned with his father after he became the Dark One. The kind, loving man he once was melted away as soon as he became the Dark One. This probably terrified Baelfire and resulted in him running away to Neverland.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
But I’m confused as to why you label Rumpel a coward for running away from war (a war that asks young children to kill), but the criticize him for killing the knights at the end of episode. So, it’s ok for him to kill in a war, but not to kill for his son? Personally, being a coward or refusing to fight another man’s war doesn’t translate into being a coward. Why risk your own life for another man’s war when you can risk it for the life of your child.
Because Rumpel did not have to kill those soldiers. He could have just sent them away. He was the dark one. He had the power. The guy was on his knees and was scared Rumpel could have just sent him away. He didn’t. He killed them. That is the difference between killing them and running away during the war. And sometimes you have to stand and fight. We don’t know the situation though except that he ran, people died, and he is considered a coward for it.
I think there is no chance that Cora is Bae’s mother.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
And of course we don’t what his motivations are. That’s been done on purpose. It’s not because the writers are confused about his character, it’s because the show needs to last longer than 1 season, so they stretch the story out. He’s hundreds of years old, has a lot history and mythology to tell, and is the creator oft he curse. So naturally, it’s going to take longer to tell his story than the Evil Queen’s or any of the other characters for that matter.
I think the writers have an idea why Rumpel is doing what he is doing, but i don’t think it is going to be any more interesting that what was between Snow and Regina. It is probably going to be because he thinks Bae is dead or something like that or just because he is the dark one and that is it. I haven’t found Rumpel’s backstory interesting so far because on one hand they try to say that even as the dark one he is still a guy who is in control of his choices, but then everyone says that he is the dark one and that is why he does all this evil.
And Emma and Snow may have done the wrong things in some cases, breaking and entering, taking the potion, but that is a long way from Rumpel’s murder and trading for babies.
And i am going to ask again. What good has Rumpel done? What is this good?
I think the writers have an idea why Rumpel is doing what he is doing, but i don’t think it is going to be any more interesting that what was between Snow and Regina. It is probably going to be because he thinks Bae is dead or something like that or just because he is the dark one and that is it. I haven’t found Rumpel’s backstory interesting so far because on one hand they try to say that even as the dark one he is still a guy who is in control of his choices, but then everyone says that he is the dark one and that is why he does all this evil.
Hmm. It depends on what you consider interesting. Judging by the post count in this thread alone, I’d say a lot of people find Rumpel interesting. 😆 But of course, you won’t find it intersting because you’ve made it quite clear that you don’t like Rumpel’s character, so there ya go. 😆
UGH!!! We’re talking about this again? I thought we changed the subject to something else? This topic is dividing us. We’re all family here. Let’s just change the topic for now. 😉
To answer Midnight Dreary’s question about what direction will the writers take Rumpel’s character in season 2, I think it depends on how the finale will end. If Regina ends up killing Belle, then Mr. Gold is going to go on an unstoppable war path. But if Belle survives the finale, then…I’m not sure where his character will go. He’s too complex and mysterious to try to predict. The wrietrs have done an amazing job keeping Mr. Gold’s mystique. 😉
I find Rumpel interesting in the moment like when he is used as a plot device to help Emma or help Regina i find him very interesting. I think his episodes have not been interesting. And i think Desperate Souls was badly written and badly acted. Skin Deep was much better, but still slow at times. The scenes with Rumpel and the Queen are epic though.
I don’t hate the character though. That just isn’t true.
GAH!!! Guys, we’re talking in circles here. There will be those who think Rumpel was born evil and will die evil, and there will be those who think that he can change. Let’s just leave it at that. 😉
I agree that Mr. Gold would unleash hell on Earth if anything bad happened to Belle. And on top of that, Regina would have lost her leverage over Mr. Gold. She’s worth more to her alive than dead.
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