Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin Character Analysis

[ciela_crow]

Oh yeah! Maybe the magical power that Regina has has been passed down throughout her family for generations. Maybe Rumpelstiltskin saw that she had magical abilities (if it works that way) and decided to keep her to replace his lost son. He could have raised her and taught her magic for a while before her mom took her back. I’m sort of doubting that though, but I do think that somehow Rumpel gave her her power.

[hjbau]

Yeah exactly. If Regina’s mother is the miller’s daughter making Regina the daughter that is taken or owed to Rumpel somehow and that Regina’s mother becomes queen like the story of the millers daughter. And so that would make an interesting connection to the two stories. We have the miller’s daughter who becomes queen and then her daughter becomes the evil witch in Snow White. That is a good integration of the stories and a twist. I like the idea.

[snowbelle]

@ciela_crow wrote:

I love the idea of Regina’s mom having the dagger. I like the idea that her mom is the miller’s daughter to. Maybe Regina was her firstborn, and after Rumpel took her way, Cora went and found the dagger and ordered him to give Regina back to her. They are saying that Cora has an almost obsessive love of Regina (like she does Henry) and that would explain why. Then Rumpel could have got the dagger back somehow or Cora could have let him have it.

and isn’t the name on the dagger?? Part of the tale is her guessing his name to avoid giving up her child! 😮

"A man unwilling to fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets." -Hook

[vasalisa]

Do you think Rumple really found “comfort in this new land”? He had a “rather large estate” in FTL, and a big house in Storybrooke, and some very fine suits, but he’s still a lonely guy. Was that one of Regina’s Corrupt-a-Wishes? Maybe he needed to define comfort a little clearer … I’m thinking of comfort more as succor being what he was actually seeking

From the Free Online Dictionary : suc·cor (skr)
n.
1. Assistance in time of distress; relief.
2. One that affords assistance or relief.
tr.v. suc·cored, suc·cor·ing, suc·cors
To give assistance to in time of want, difficulty, or distress.

Or maybe just once — something freely given without a deal attached to it.

[hjbau]

It didn’t seem like Rumpel was all that bad off in the fairytale land. He did have a huge house. Though maybe after he does the deals with Snow he is then outcast somehow.

[Slurpeez]

hjbau If Regina’s mother is the miller’s daughter making Regina the daughter that is taken or owed to Rumpel somehow and that Regina’s mother becomes queen like the story of the millers daughter. And so that would make an interesting connection to the two stories. We have the miller’s daughter who becomes queen and then her daughter becomes the evil witch in Snow White. That is a good integration of the stories and a twist. I like the idea.

Based on the Rumplestiltskin story, a poor miller boasted to a greedy king that his daughter could spin straw to gold. Rumple made the deal with the miller’s daughter: he’d spin straw to gold in exchange for her first born. The miller’s daughter married the king and bore a child. In order to save the child, she had to guess the imp’s name, and so sent her servant to discover it, thereby beating Rumple at his own game. If Regina is the infant from the story, perhaps the curse Rumple gave her is payback for escaping his domains as an infant. I like the idea, too, except that there are a few details that need to be squared away for it to fit.

Based on the summary for episode 18, we know Regina was a princess growing up before she married Snow White’s father. That would make her mother, Cora, a queen. Presumably, Regina’s father is the greedy king from the Rumple fairytale. Yet, we saw Henry Mills Sr., Regina’s father, and he really didn’t strike me as being very regal or very greedy. Instead, he was a humble valet, and not at all like the description of the king from the original Rumple fairytale. Perhaps Cora had an affair with her servant, Henry Sr, and was unfaithful to her husband, the king. Recall how Rumple told Regina that in order to enact the dark curse, she first had to sacrifice the heart of the thing she loved most: her father. If Henry Sr. was really the servant Queen Cora sent to spy on Rumple, and if Henry was Regina’s father, perhaps Rumple’s way of getting even was for Regina to kill her own father.

Also, if Henry Sr. was Cora’s servant, lover, and father of her child, that would make the king from the original story Regina’s step-father. We know that the king from the original Rumple story was very zealous for straw to be woven into gold. Who else have we seen who’s very zealous for gold? It’s King George, who demanded Prince James marry Abigail, King Midas’ daughter, to save the kingdom from financial ruin. What if he is the same king who married the miller’s daughter (aka Cora)? King George told Prince Charming he and his wife were unable to have children of their own, so they adopted. Perhaps King George, who was unable to father a child, was unkind to Regina, the illegitimate daughter of his unfaithful wife, Cora, which may be partially why Regina became hardened. (That would help to explain why Regina was such a rotten step-parent to Snow White). Perhaps King George arranged for Regina to marry King Leopold for money, like he tried to do with his adoptive son, Prince James and Princess Abigail.

Perhaps that’s how Regina’s mother, Cora, could be one-in-the-same as the miller’s daughter. Either that or Henry Sr. wasn’t Regina’s biological father, but perhaps her biological grandfather (aka Cora’s father–the miller from Rumple’s story).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[hjbau]

I completely agree that the hitch in the theory is that Regina’s father does not seem like a king to me. I think that since it seems like whatever happened between Snow and Regina has something to do with the stable boy and the princess liking each other so Regina is a princess and her mother is a queen. Maybe like you said Regina’s mother had a child with Henry and he wasn’t the king or maybe the character is just different though i am not sure that quite makes sense because when the Queen killed Snow’s father, her father was working in the castle there as well. I think we just need a bit more information. It is a good theory though even if the story doesn’t quite follow the original Rumpel story it could be what the original story is based on.

[vasalisa]

Why do you think Rumple’s skin color changes from green to gold to gray? Does it reflect his moods? his age? his relative health? or something else?

[killianhookfan]

I don’t know, I’ve wondered about that. I’ve actually thought about asking RC about it at one of his Twitter sessions. I can’t tell if it is just the lighting on the show that affects the color or not. It seems like his make-up has gotten less “chunky” since the pilot – it had a lot more texture to it in the pilot. I think they really toned it down for Skin Deep to bring out more of his humanity. But other than that I can’t tell. Sometimes he looks green, sometimes he looks gold, sometimes he looks grey, sometimes he looks more glittery.

[darcyfarrow]

Hmm, it might be helpful to take note of who he’s with when his skin takes on a particular hue. Or maybe it’s what he’s doing…maybe more glittery when he’s making a deal, more grey when he’s spinning (and trying to forget.)

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