Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin Character Analysis

[evilqueen]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Hook: That’s all I wanted to hear. I’m going to be on my merry way now.

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[rcz]

I just saw “The Cricket Game” and, any idea on what does Rumple has to do with dogs?

[tiara_rose]

Rumple was a spinner. Maybe he has some sheeps on his own and a dog.
or he had a dog in his childhood or he know who is Pongo in the enchanted forest.

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[RumplesGirl]

I think the clue is when Rumple said “in another life.” Rumple has had several “lives” at this point: Pre-Dark One Rumple (a humble cowardly spinner who probably had sheep and sheepdogs for his trade), Dark One Rumple, and Mr. Gold. *and of course in following Charming/David Nolan, he is all three* In my opinion Mr Gold and Dark One Rumple are pretty closely linked since Gold is technically still the Dark One, so his previous life would be the one before he became the Dark One. I wonder if we’ll ever get to see more of his life pre-Dark One. Maybe his time during the Ogre’s War?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[maryrose d.]

I think he was just saying “in another life” like someone says ” it was a long time ago” or “who I use to be”. I think he did have contact with dogs pre-dark one, but being that most of his life was as the dark one in FTL I wouldn’t be shocked if he dealt with dogs during that time.

Keeper of Swanfire's dream catcher, the Blue Fairy Plot Device, the contact name "Her", the lanyards, the trigger, the Netherworld room and necklace, Charming's quote on Thanksgiving, and PP's pic of Henry

[playarita]

I love the idea of being a spinner he might have had a sheepdog and sheep.
Something is whether or not he worked with dogs while in the war. Maybe his role in the war was that of a scout or a tracker and a dog would be a great help.

[ser_dragon]

I wonder, does we know how much time Rumpel was imprisoned since his capture up to Regina enacting the Dark Curse?

[RumplesGirl]

@Ser_Dragon wrote:

I wonder, does we know how much time Rumpel was imprisoned since his capture up to Regina enacting the Dark Curse?

I don’t think we know for sure. But I don’t think it could have been too long since Ashley (Cinderella) was still pregnant in SB until the Emma showed up and time began again. Was Snow pregnant with Emma in The Price of Gold FTL flashback? That would give us a big hint.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[ser_dragon]

Was Snow pregnant with Emma in The Price of Gold FTL flashback? That would give us a big hint.

Good question, i thought about Snow pregnancy being a good hint too, but i can’t remember for sure, i need to re watch the episode. Well for now let’s say he was in there for a few months, at least.

And thanks for answering 🙂

[spinninggold]

Just caught up with 51 pages. *wipes sweat from brow*
Well here goes for a first post, it was great to read your theories, very enlightening and fun to read. And very good to know that I’m not the onlyone obsessed about this man. So to return the favour, here’s my two cents:
I’m surprised nobody saw this yet, but I think The Dark Curse is poisoning Rumpelstiltskin, like Gollem is poisoned by the ring in LotR. It is clearest in the episode that he loses Bae. He can’t let go of the power, the gold, it has him in it’s grip. He is truly possesed by it, just like the Ring does in LotR. They can’t cast it in to the fire, and Rumpelstiltskin can’t let go either, because the power is within him, and it’s holding him back, eating away at him jut like the Ring that does not want to be destroyed. When he is finally ready, it is too late, the hole closes, Bae is gone. You can actually see his eyes are wider as Rumpel, especially in that episode (and I would love to know how they done that) like he is possesed.

As mr. Gold he is free from the Dark One’s part of the curse, but after 300 years of power he is so used to it, he can’t just give it up. It’s his crutch (with a lovely golden handle,maybe that’s why he can’t get rid of the thing. And let’s face it, Robert Carlyle makes the thing sexy). Plus no one may remember who they are, but they still have the same feelings towards eachother. Seeing everyone hates his guts, he needs the status as protection. Last but not least, he needs his power to beat Regina. It is his curse, and what it does was not Regina expected. He knows how evil Regina truly is and needs his power to keep her under his thumb when the time comes.
No one knew who they were when they went to Storybrooke, but Rumpel left himself clues (in Squid inkt I bet. It could be the reason he makes the second deal with Cinderella. He knows fully well it’s a trap, but he needs that inkt, because he KNOWS the spell is gonna be cast soon) He has left hints and helpful tools all around the forest, and that is why he is always digging around there like a forgetful squirrel. He knows he has planted stuff out there, but he doesn’t know where, and he is still piecing the lot together.

Master manipulator he might be but he is always true to his word. Rumpel and the Genie have both said it: No good comes from magic. Be careful what you wish for, it might come true. Everyone who asks for Rumpel’s help does this for short term gain, and it comes to bite the back in the butt. Rumpel knows this, even warns his “victims”, but they all go down by their own greed. Which, let’s face it, serves him perfectly well.

I do think in that Rumpel/Gold is less evil than Regina/ EQ
Everything Rumpelstiltskin is towards his goal of finding back his son. All his deals are either a search or a direct result of it. In that respect Cinderella’s kid even might have been a back up plan: Result of true love, in case the deal with Snow and Charming fell through. That is also why he gives up the baby so easily once she is born. He does not need her anymore, Emma is there before him. And he gets a good deal out of it in the proces, a favour from Emma.
He made the curse, but I don’t think he could have cast it, even if he had something or someone he loved enough, he could not have sacrificed her. That is why has tried every other way already. It could even be why he send Belle away. Not because he does not love her, but because his spell is finished, and he knows the last ingredient. With Belle around, temptation is too great, so he sends her away. An act of cowardice and heroism all in one. He is protecting her from his own dark side. And also he can’t give up magic till he is reunited with Bae. He made a promise to find him, and he will always keep his promise. He believes he needs his magic for that.
When Regina comes to the scene he finds someone who can. That’s why he gives her the spell,but not completely, so he has a bargaining chip. Regina is not driven by love but by an all consuming vengange on everything around it. She WILL sacrifice everything (but in Storybrooke finally starts to realise that it has left her empty inside, and tries to fill that hole with a child) Her magic is purely dark, and so far I have not seen an excuse for it either. Since she is still human I wonder what the reason is. Has she no heart, did she lose it by the hand of her mother, or traded in an attempt to get back her lover and is that why she is so heartless? We already know that fairy tale creatures can live perfectly well without a heart. That would also explain her obsession with hearts, and why she wants Snow’s. A pure heart to replace her own.

I don’t think Rumpel or August have written the book. I think August brought it from FTL when he came through the closet, ahead of Emma. It is their history book, and the reason Rumpel is hardly in it, is that bad history is rather forgotten, brushed under the carpet. Nothing new there. The book is probably written in squid inkt, so it survived the trip.
And this theory is out there, but what if August brought Henry to Storybrooke, with the book, a letter of who the baby was and placed it all in front of his gran’s house: Mary-Margaret.
Only Rumpel finds him first on an early morning round (maybe collecting rent). He takes the baby, and the letter, but not the basket. That is found by Mary-Margaret, and still contains the book, which she keeps. He goes on to give the baby on to Regina, as a bargain for something or other, knowing the baby is Emma’s and that will eventually lead her to Storybrook, exactly where he wants her. We have never found out why Henry knows Emma is his mother, and for a ten year old to find this out is rather strange, especially seeing Regina didn’t know. Maybe mr Gold made sure this letter ended up in Henry’s hands?

And I am surprised that Rumpelstiltskin has not figured this out yet, but Emma’s kiss solves everything. She is Twue Wuve (couldn’t help myself) or at least the product of that, and her kiss is true love’s kiss. That’s why the Sherrif remembered he was the Woodsman, because he kissed her in a drunken mood. That’s why it saved Henry.

Just a thought, but could the Dark One, be a result of the Blue Fairy’s magic gone awry? Bae is recommended to go to the source: The Blue Fairy. And Dreamy turns into Grumpy due to her meddling. It seems that if the fairies’ magic goes bad, then evil is createdand can’t be undone. And Rumpelstiltskin himself says that Fairy magic is evil as he kills the Fairy godmother. It seems the Blue Fairy can not always oversee her magic. And then has sloppy solutions to solve it. Many a FTL creature must have fallen through the cracks over the centuries, and that is why we know the fairy tales.

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