Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin Character Analysis

[thelonebamf]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@Keb wrote:

I kinda hope we never get a first name for Mr. Gold. There’s no way it could be epic enough. I mean, it’s a little like the thing August showed Neal–it was cooler before the reveal. I want the curse to have never given him a first name.

I don’t think it did. It’s a nod to the original Rumple story.

To be quite honest, I was surprised how liberally they thew his name around in FTL. Sure, people called him the Dark One but we never even had a hint that he *tried* to keep his name a secret at any point. It seemed more like “The Dark One” is an honorific or a way to avoid saying the name than anything else. The pilot made a big deal about names giving power over another, but nothing seems to have come of that either. Since Ella’s tale was as close to the original Rumplestiltskin story, I don’t imagine we’ll ever see a name game.

[RumplesGirl]

To be quite honest, I was surprised how liberally they thew his name around in FTL. Sure, people called him the Dark One but we never even had a hint that he *tried* to keep his name a secret at any point. It seemed more like “The Dark One” is an honorific or a way to avoid saying the name than anything else. The pilot made a big deal about names giving power over another, but nothing seems to have come of that either. Since Ella’s tale was as close to the original Rumplestiltskin story, I don’t imagine we’ll ever see a name game.

I think that’s because his true secret is his dagger–which also seems to be well known.
He did say that he traffics in names in Manhattan. Maybe something will come of that.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[darkones1fan]

Well, on the name front there could be two possibilities one that was just a pilot thing and something’s in the pilot never make it past that. Or again Remember Emma’s nave have Rumple the power to break his curse in SB. As for the whole Dark One’ name thing. Yeah I agree his real secret is the dagger but perhaps Rumple’s name come’s into play if you have the dagger and say the name on the dagger like Rumple did with Zoso. Also wonder if Rumple can here you every time you say his name or does he just filter it out unless it someone important sort of like in the Harry Potter books with Voldemort when you say his name bad things happen.

[thelonebamf]

Haha, I’m sure that’s a reputation he wouldn’t have minded cultivating, but I don’t think it’s the truth. I do think we have some kind of inkling that he can hear when people call on him. I don’t think he’s forced to answer, but he probably did for his own reasons if he thought it would be worth his time. So probably, it’s less that bad things would happen, and more that people knew he would be able to hear them call him, and it became a “Don’t call his name unless you really want to follow through with that…” sort of situation.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

[storybrookegirl]

I think he can hear when people call him or say his name because he told Regina to call out for him in The Evil Queen. So if the name thing gave him a power to know when people where talking about him, why wouldn’t he spread that around by telling people his name? We’ll have to watch when they give us more of Bae’s Neverland past, but I’d wager he doesn’t say Rumple’s name once, just uses “The Dark One,” because then Rumplestilitskin would’ve been able to find him. Also, for more in the way of names having power, there’s been some speculation in other threads that the Shadow was summoned to Bae by him telling Wendy his name, because the Shadow didn’t show up until he found the Darlings. Perhaps the Lost Ones wouldn’t have found Hook’s ship either if Hook didn’t make Bae tell him his name.

[Keb]

Well, Bae would be unlikely to say his father’s name often anyway, even if the name thing isn’t something he’s aware of yet (or a power Rumple has cultivated yet). It’s his papa, and that’s the name he thinks of Rumple by. How often do you say your parents’ names? I have to think extra hard when I introduce them to people.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[Keb]

Was reading some rumbelle analysis and an interesting contrast hit me re Rumple’s treatment of Belle, even from the beginning of their relationship.

“It’s just a cup.”

This is a guy who is extremely possessive, who collects objects and values them highly (if as nothing else, tools for getting what he wants). He tells Belle he loves his things, and the evidence that he does is pretty strong. In fact, once he comes to associate the chipped cup with her, he seems to value it even unconsciously (before it becomes his most cherished object).

And yet he tells her it’s just a cup. I think despite the fact that he intentionally teases her and tries to persuade her he’s evil while she’s at the Dark Castle, her distress genuinely distresses him. We see that when she’s crying and, like most guys in the face of a crying woman, he looks for a moment like he’s at a complete loss for what to do. (Seriously. I’m an emotional girl and I’ve seen this probably way more than I should admit.) Thus the pillow. I think if someone had pilfered the cup or intentionally damaged it–even before it had any significance to him–he wouldn’t have been so dismissive. But because she’s distressed about it, he dismisses it.

And now the rumbelle feels hit. Cuz awww.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[darkones1fan]

Hey everyone, now this question is something that probably was discussed way earlier from a while back but since I am still kind of new to this forum I just had to ask and I though putting it here would be the appropriate spot. Well in my view. Okay here we go. In was re watching some season 1 Episodes for the heck of it and I noticed in the episode Desperate Souls something. Zoso appeared to Rumple and Bae as a normal elderly man no gold skin or creepy looking features whatsoever and then It made me wonder,can Rumple do the same thing.Has Rumple for all these years just been using a spell on himself to look normal and hide his a….” Rosy complexion” as he puts it.I ask because there is a lot of talk about having Gold change back to Rumple in Season 3 since their going to a different world, of course you know there’s the whole makeup time and stuff to and it would probably just be simpler to keep Gold, Gold but if they did go that rout that would be a interesting way of explaining it. Again sorry if this is old talk but again I’m still new here and don’t have the time to go over every forum to see if this has been previously discussed.

[RumplesGirl]

There are a few theories about why Rumple looks the way he does in SB as opposed to how he looks in FTL. The main one I see is that magic works differently in SB and thus he is the Dark One in powers only, not in appearance. If the Dark One’s curse is localized to FTL then it might be that he is only the full Dark One when in FTL, which also might be the reason why the final two Rumbelle kisses of S2 had no effect on his curse either. He must be in FTL for the full curse to be broken. That is one possibility, and an interesting one given that many speculate that Rumple will lose his powers in NL in S3 while fighting PP while saving Henry, giving up his powers for Henry in other words.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Josephine]

I do wonder if he is going to turn sparkly again. The thing about Storybrooke is that Archie hasn’t turned back into a cricket, either, and the fairies aren’t flying around. As to him only being sparkly in FTL, he remained his scaley self in Whale’s home–The Land With Color…or whatever it’s called. So I wonder if he’ll return back to his former visage. Won’t that be a shock for Emma! And imagine them finally finding Henry. He’d be like, “Grandpa, what sparkly skin you have!”. He doesn’t have his leather pants, though. I don’t know how I’d feel to see Rumple in Mr. Gold’s suits.

My complaint about the past season is, although we’ve seen some of Rumple’s mannerisms coming out in Mr. Gold, I never got my giggle. I just wanted one giggle from the stoic Mr. Gold in his stunning suits and colorful shirts and ties. Come on Eddy and Adam, make it happen.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

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