Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin Character Analysis

[orza]

Collecting hearts and using them to control people has never been Rumple’s thing. He manipulates people to do what he wants by making deals. My impression was that Rumple was carrying on with Cora because he had the hots for her and she was willing but he hadn’t seriously considered love until Cora brought it up on the last day. She dumped him that evening so there was no time for a meaningful love to develop between them.

Rumple crushed Milah’s heart in a fit of rage after she said that she had never loved him. That had nothing to do with the curse. The seer had already told Rumple that someone else would enact the curse so there was no need for him to worry about getting the heart of the thing he loved the most. That would have been Bae, not Milah.

[RumplesGirl]

@marty mcfly wrote:

whats up with Rumpel’s love life? Mila Cora and Belle are such completely different people. If Rumpel was Regina he would have taken Cora’s box and controlled her like Regina did the huntsman. why didn’t he? does it prove that he really did love her? and if he truly loved her why didn’t he change when he kissed her? but he needed her daughter for the curse so why didn’t he control her heart for that purpose? I don’t think he’s a very bad person.
the curse required a heart from “the thing you love most” is that why he ttook Mila’s heart and when he realized that she was not the thing he loved most he crushed it?
Is Lacy mery much like Cora and Milla (in drinking at bars and liking magic)

In my opinion those 4 women (Milah, Cora, Belle, and Lacey) represent Rumple at different stages in his life.
Milah was the idealized life, she was the woman for his initial life, before he became the Dark One.
Cora was the Dark One’s perfect match. They may have loved each other but it was a dark and scary love.
Belle is the one who makes Rumple want to be the best man he can be. She is his true love.
Lacey. reminds us that he does have darkness in him and he has a long road to go, but in the end he will choose Belle and goodness.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[obisgirl]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

In my opinion those 4 women (Milah, Cora, Belle, and Lacey) represent Rumple at different stages in his life.
Milah was the idealized life, she was the woman for his initial life, before he became the Dark One.
Cora was the Dark One’s perfect match. They may have loved each other but it was a dark and scary love.
Belle is the one who makes Rumple want to be the best man he can be. She is his true love.
Lacey. reminds us that he does have darkness in him and he has a long road to go, but in the end he will choose Belle and goodness.

Just came from the Rumpel and Milah thread and hopped over here to see what’s being talked about and it’s Milah again. 😆

Yes, I totally agree.

[Slurpeez]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01br60z

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Slurpeez]

BBC Radio Scotland: Robert Carlyle Interview
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01br60z

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Keb]

So rewatching season one. In 102, Gold remarks on Henry’s name, asking Regina how she picked it. He’s clearly just messing with her, since he can with his memories back, and of course names are his thing.

But in light of the fact that Henry Sr. was his rival for Cora’s affections, the whole thing takes on a different tone. Regina named his grandson after the man whom Cora chose over him. (He doesn’t know that it’s his grandson yet, but !!!)

Also, wow do he and Henry have a complicated relationship.

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[obisgirl]

Nice observation.

[thelonebamf]

It looks like it’s about time to dust off this thread. :3

I was examining Rumple’s season 3 look, and while I appreciate the idea of a Half-Gold-Half-Dark One combo (as do the makeup team and Carlyle, I’m sure) I found that it just wasn’t “working” for me. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but the look as a whole was just falling flat. After considering it and studying the costume a bit, I think I figured out why it felt this way, and it actually gave me a bit of material to muse on and I thought I’d share.

I tried to figure out what it was about this new outfit that didn’t make it pop like so many of the others. There are elements of it that seem familiar- the big coat, the reptile skin, the tight pants… so why is this one different? The thought occurred to me during “The Lost Girl” as I watched Rumplestiltskin make his way through the jungle- I realized, in the dark of night and thick vegetation, it was difficult to see him. That alone made a huge difference. When I think of all of Rumple’s “Dark One” outfits from the past, the main feature was that they were all a form of “peacocking”. The colors, the fabrics, the outlandish silhouettes all drew attention to him and helped paint him as a formidable foe, someone who was just waiting for a challenge. Even the black outfits had crazy details, like the spikes in the first scene of ‘Skin Deep’.(Very different from Zoso, I may as well add- although we don’t know how much control he had over his clothing, I think it’s safe to say he was trying to be discreet.) While I don’t think you’re likely to find anyone in the Enchanted Forest who thought the Dark One was a style icon, I think it’s safe to say that Rumple was dressing for his audience, doing his best to paint a picture of a sly villain so that he might play it well.

So why don the villain’s costume now? And such a subdued one at that? Well to answer the second question first, Rumple isn’t stupid. He knows he’s outgunned and he’s going to have to work quickly, quietly, and drawing as little of Peter’s attention as possible (good luck). Like I said, I had a hard time making him out on screen against the dark background. Even though he’s taken up the mantle of the Dark One again, he’s still trying to lay low- the dark colors are about as close to camouflage as we’re likely to see him wear. Why wear the outfit at all? Well, of course there will be the occasional encounter with a Lost Boy or two, but they don’t seem too impressed at it probably wouldn’t matter what Rumple was wearing. No, I think more likely the coat is for Rumplestiltskin himself. It’s been a while since he was “The Dark One” and he spent some of that time trying to outright bury that part of his past, even if it wasn’t successful. Taking up the cowl (to borrow a Batman metaphor) is a physical and real way to reassure himself that he is still capable of being ruthless and has the ability to do what needs to be done, no matter what the cost.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

[kfchimera]

I agree Lonebamf, he is dressing the part he thinks he has to play to get Henry, yet the more he recalls this side of him, the more he worries, can I really do this?

What do you make of his shadow and the dagger?  It obviously seems to be a hint of how PP’s shadow might have become a separate yet connected entity.  The shadow peels off and can follow limited orders.  I wonder if we will see Rumple’s shadow do anything.  Is it the “Dark One” side of himself, so all that is left is Rumple, with all his fears brought to the surface?  He has to realize he has hundreds of years of experience, knowledge of magic, fighting and that perhaps he does not need his Dark One powers anymore.  Yet he thinks that’s the part he has to play.  Then PP gives him that doll and it takes him, as PP’s comments to Emma about her true self, back to a time of weakness, back to his childhood trauma.

You know, I’ve lived under the shadow of my father’s actions for too long now.

That is what he said to Milah about going to war.  I wonder how the writers might adjust his story with his father, since the scene in that episode, that should have preceded this scene, Manhattan, was cut.   Perhaps literally there will be some shadow haunting him?

For now though, I wonder if/when we will see Rumple’s shadow.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

Very nice BAMF. And I agree. He even says something similar to Belle, when she asks about why he’s dressed in his leather. It’s the idea that his future is the Dark One in order to get back Henry, but it’s not his normal flair “look at how fab I am” like in the EF. I think he’s more scared than he’s letting on.

 

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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