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I’d add the LGBT issues. As in:
–don’t assume heterosexuality in all cases and don’t make being gay a “joke” with a person’s sexuality a punchline.
In fact, keeping him at Chaotic Neutral would have worked just fine.
Yes I agree. Rumple is at his most interesting–and by extension, Bobby does his best work–when you’re not sure which side he’s on, and manages to move between both as effortlessly as possible. Have him be sympathetic (Belle, Bae, Henry) but also be the Trickster who makes sly deals and dispenses snark and bullseye commentary to every passerby.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Wrong link
Anyway, VERY interesting read about how “no good deed goes unpunished” and a bit about Rumple’s characterhttp://violetfaust.tumblr.com/post/131414412926/no-good-deed-goes-unpunished
A quote from that:
“Notice in the Fairytale land jail scene where he is bargaining with the Queen. He says “In this new land, I want comfort. I want a good life.” He did not say riches. The queen said riches. I think in a way, Rumple just wants himself, and others, to live in peace.”Whatever Rumple says about himself is NOT who he truely is.
He keeps saying that he always chooses power when in canon he always chooses love
I think he sort of speaks in code “power over love” really means “family/love over sex/personal gratification”
He keeps calling himself a coward yet he keeps doing the brave thing. He didn’t desert the war; he played by the rules and broke his own ankle which is much harder than dying. A coward would have been to scared to take action, and either run or died.
I disagree that Rumple is speaking in code. He truly believes these things about himself. We see his various acts as heroic (depending on our own POV) but Rumple does believe that he’s unworthy of love, that he’s a villain, and that everyone will always leave him because he’s not good enough. His deep deep abandonment issues (which I discussed two pages back) are extensive and inform much of his psychology. He doesn’t see himself as a hero and belies the issue for whatever reason.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"This brings us to another question, and one we’ve been somewhat avoiding. Is Rumple’s inconsistent character writing a result of trying to make Hook look better? Or is it because the writers don’t know what to do with Rumple? Or is it because they find Dark Rumple more interesting? OR is it not inconsistent writing at all?
I think it’s them not knowing what to do with Rumple. I think they have a plan for the end of his character, but they literally had no idea what to do with him in the meantime. I also think they find Dark Rumple more interesting. I really don’t think they are trying to make Hook look better, but maybe.
S5: Rumple is set up as a hero who pulled Excalibur only to take back on the Dark One’s powers for his own agenda. We are also told that Rumple’s real motivation for leaving the war out of fear and never anything to do with Bae.
I don’t believe he specifically said it had nothing to do with Bae. He didn’t mention Bae, and only mentioned his fear, but I took that as more of emphasizing one of the many reasons he left the war, and the fear reason happened to fit nicely with the plot for the episode of trying to make Rumple brave.
S5: Rumple is set up as a hero who pulled Excalibur only to take back on the Dark One’s powers for his own agenda. We are also told that Rumple’s real motivation for leaving the war out of fear and never anything to do with Bae.
I don’t believe he specifically said it had nothing to do with Bae. He didn’t mention Bae, and only mentioned his fear, but I took that as more of emphasizing one of the many reasons he left the war, and the fear reason happened to fit nicely with the plot for the episode of trying to make Rumple brave.
From the episode (bold my emphasis)
Belle: You’ve been brave before
Rumple: When? During the First Ogres War? Let me tell you the truth about that day…I didn’t cripple myself to get back to my son…I did it because I was afraid.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I disagree that Rumple is speaking in code. He truly believes these things about himself. We see his various acts as heroic (depending on our own POV) but Rumple does believe that he’s unworthy of love, that he’s a villain, and that everyone will always leave him because he’s not good enough. His deep deep abandonment issues (which I discussed two pages back) are extensive and inform much of his psychology. He doesn’t see himself as a hero and belies the issue for whatever reason.
And yes to all of this.
From the episode (bold my emphasis)
Belle: You’ve been brave before
Rumple: When? During the First Ogres War? Let me tell you the truth about that day…I didn’t cripple myself to get back to my son…I did it because I was afraid.
The writers seem to want to erase Nealfire from the picture, even going so far as to retcon Rumple’s motivations.
I think one of the issues with the Rumple character now is that, with Nealfire’s death, Rumple has lost one of his main driving forces. From season 1-3B, Rumple’s main aim was reuniting with Baelfire. With Baelfire’s death, Rumple was kind of cast adrift. Rather than actually having Rumple deal with Baelfire’s death, going off the rails as a result of grief, trying to find a way to bring Baelfire back etc, the writers seemed to just want Rumple to be bad for the sake of it.
With the Rumple/Henry relationship so underdeveloped, Belle is the only other person in Storybrooke that Rumple has strong ties to but she is not given nearly enough screentime outside of being Rumple’s love interest or the group researcher.
Here’s my question. With the death of Baelfire and Belle’s lack of screentime, is it possible that the writers aren’t necessarily making Rumple be evil for the sake of evil, but they’re just not taking the time to explore his motivations or reasoning beyond what is needed for the plot?
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