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<p style=”text-align: left;”>I should amend that in the third scenario, if Rumple ends up with Belle this is explicitly framed as NOT “getting the girl in the end” where Belle is not some price for being good, but a thinking human being making her own decisions and moral compromises.</p>
[adrotate group="5"]After reading the three scenarios, I’d say that the third one would be the most organic and true to the show as it stood in S1. But that’s the problem. Is the show the same that it was in S1? My answer continues to be a resounding no and while the third option would show a complexity, we’re back to the idea that the show has boiled down its characters and story to the most basic terms. In other words: Rumple will either get the Hero treatment (full life with Belle and a new baby) or the Villain treatment (learns valuable lesson but still dies because of own evil doings, thus leaving behind Belle and new Baby and continuing on the abandonment issues but this time with a mother who will ensure that the baby grows up knowing both sides of his dead dad).
If I had to guess, based on the trajectory of the show, it’s option b: Villain Treatment.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If Rumple is thrown under the bus and killed off because “he’s a villain”, the show is dead to me. If it continues beyond that point it’s a zombie.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixIf Rumple is thrown under the bus and killed off because “he’s a villain”, the show is dead to me. If it continues beyond that point it’s a zombie.
This show would have been so much better if Rumple would have stayed dead since 3A. In a way i am hoping that Rumple does die in the end and Neal would live. This, more than anything else is Rumple’s happiest ending. If a character could talk, i would tell you to ASK him. What was your happy ending? He would say: saving Bae and Belle and giving my life.
If Rumple is thrown under the bus and killed off because “he’s a villain”, the show is dead to me. If it continues beyond that point it’s a zombie.
This show would have been so much better if Rumple would have stayed dead since 3A. In a way i am hoping that Rumple does die in the end and Neal would live. This, more than anything else is Rumple’s happiest ending. If a character could talk, i would tell you to ASK him. What was your happy ending? He would say: saving Bae and Belle and giving my life.
I think he would prefer to live with his family if he had the chance.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI’ve gotta start back going to the Character Discussion threads…I’ve missed two analysis!
Here’s a Rumple tribute though!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I’m hoping for Rumbelle to survive, but in order for it to work, Rumple is going to have to show he’s changed and Belle is going to have to demonstrate a reason for accepting that change as valid beyond love. She was right that there’s been too much broken trust, and the erratic treatment of her character–she would have been consistent had she either asked to take things slowly and work it out because love or not run back into his arms with almost no pretext, but you can’t have it both ways without making Belle seriously OOC somewhere along the way.
But this is about Rumple…and his redemption (re-redemption really) requires that he once more choose love over power. He did it once, losing everything, then got brought back to lose everything all over again…and again.
He has to find a way to break the cycle, and my Rumbelle-loving heart still hopes for a resonant TLK moment that will shatter the darkness forever and free Rumple to be with his family as he’s always truly wanted.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
Ok I’m trying to sort of work out the overall storyline for Rumple (and by extension Belle and Bae) that I would’ve liked to see on screen.
The Black Fairy – This is a story I would change entirely. Instead of being a human who turned herself into a fairy and then was banished all while trying (I guess) to save her son; I’d have The Black Fairy be an ancient fairy, possibly the first fairy or one of the first. She turned to darkness long long ago because she wanted more power and she took a lot of other fairies with her (think Lucifer) when she left for The Dark Realm, which is a land she created for herself where she brings the children she kidnaps to build her own dark version of paradise.
Malcolm – We know Malcolm was an apprentice to a blacksmith (sold into it by his own father). At some point he calls on The Black Fairy to help him (similarly to how Baelfire called on The Blue Fairy) kill the blacksmith and maybe find and kill his father too? She helps him because she likes how dark his desires are and the two fall in love and have Rumple.
Spinner Rumple – He meets Milah, who is probably running from something or in some kind of a bind because it’s hard for me to imagine she married for love and human Rumple never had money. Or did he? Maybe the spinsters (fairies in disguise of course) gave him money, which attracted Milah, but then Rumple lost the money in some foolish or kind-hearted manner. Anyway they marry, they have Baelfire, Milah leaves, Rumple becomes The Dark One, Baelfire gets dropped down the beanhole… all pretty much as it was on the show.
Mr. Gold – Rumple finds Baelfire much like he does on the show and Baelfire is shot by Tamara and Neverland happens and Gold dies to save everyone (though I still think we need a better explanation as to why he thought he had to die with Pan, I mean it was beautiful, but reasons?). Rumple is brought back and here’s where it all kind of spins out… do I want Baelfire to die here and then be brought back by Zeus later after everyone goes to Hell to save him (a plot that might actually make more sense then the reason those chose to use) they could even trade Zelena’s life to Hades for Baelfire (since Hades seemed to like her) or do I want something else to happen? What if there was a way that say Belle found that would allow Bae and Rumple to separate and live and would somehow cost Zelena her life?
Rumbelle – This is tricky because I love Rumple, I love (Disney movie) Belle and I absolutely adore Skin Deep, but most of the Rumbelle story in Storybrooke is so messed up! I wanted them to be together and stick up for each other and not lie to each other all the time. But the show could never quite get it right and while I’ve tried to put my finger on why, I’m still a bit baffled. The main problem seems to be that Rumple is still keeping himself apart from the rest of ‘the family’ and doing bad things (well he is The Dark One). Writing wise I think the reason Rumple did so much villain stuff after season 3 is that the writers needed someone from the main cast to be a consistent villain they could use to interact/team up with any arc villain they might toss in and they’d already put a lot of eggs in the basket of adding Regina and Hook (who really had no teeth as a villain against all those magic users anyway) to team hero. Storyline wise I guess it could all make sense if you remember that The Dark One is an entity in it’s own right and it might be all Rumplestiltskin the man can do to keep it from killing everyone. Or you could use Rumple’s addiction to magic after two hundred years of non-stop use. But basically I don’t know how to fix Rumbelle after season 3.
I think the biggest mistake was all the dark one mythology and the dark fairy stuff. I would have made Rumpel’s mother one of the two original fairies. I have always wanted Blue to be the dark fairy though, so that means that Rumpel’s mother would be the light fairy. I would make it seem like the Blue fairy is good though until the last moment when we realize that she is the dark fairy and really Rumpel’s mother is the light fairy. There could even be those fairies who are on the wrong side and don’t know it because it was something that happened long ago and in private, so what happened is not known.
I would have had the dark one dagger be like something that was forged from the tool that was used in the first murder. The whole holy grail, Excalibur, becomes the dagger thing was just too much and not enough at the same time. That would be a long game plot though, introducing bits and pieces of what happened long in the past between like the original people in the Enchanted Forest or something. That could even connect to the fairies with them being too involved or not enough involved in helping people and somehow creating the problem. Like the satan whispering toEve in the garden.
I know some people might not like biblical undertone in the show like the David and Goliath or the shepherd becoming king or the holy grail, but those stories are part of the way people view the world and so i think it is fair game to use those ideas about the first murder or the idea of a fallen angel, but instead a fallen fairy. This is seasons of plot though that would have to be hinted at over the long game. It isn’t a one and done episode or even one half season arc and done thing.
I am not a Rumpel fan, but i do think they went too far with him earlier in the season with how he spoke to Belle and with him hooking up with the second Regina and not caring that it happened. I think there is a line that you don’t cross and i think they crossed the line. Of course, i wouldn’t kill Bae because there is just too much interesting there with Bae’s connection to the entire family. I think they could have done more with prophecy if they had built a long game mythology and have had Bae be the boy who was the undoing which was probably what they originally meant. The whole Rumpel and Bae being the same person and Zelena doing whatever she did to them would never exist.
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