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March 16, 2013 at 3:37 pm #180322RumplesGirlKeymaster
th Belle [Emilie de Ravin] to think about, so he’s distracted while all this is going on,” Carlyle says. “What he thinks about that isn’t really clear until Episode 22, at the very end, where you realize what he’s actually up to. It’s another game-changer of an episode. Everything turns around in that moment
Bless loose lipped Bobby. But it’s this quote that gets me. It’s not until 22 that we will realize what Rumple has been doing which to me means all these times until 22 where it looks like Rumple has gone very Dark Side (“wars have costs” for instance) is really him doing something else. Like he’s got this plan that won’t become clear until 22 but until that moment, we will all think he’s being Dark and scary.
Could Robert Carlyle have let it slip that every literally turns around in that moment? As in Rumple reverses time and turns back the clock in SB, like a ‘reset’ button.
But if he turns the clock back for all of SB, won’t that mean that everyone goes back 14 years? So we’re talking pre-curse, which means no Belle and for that matter no Emma so no Rumple, he’ll be Mr. Gold again. I don’t think Rumple wants that at all.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm #180323SlurpeezParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
th Belle [Emilie de Ravin] to think about, so he’s distracted while all this is going on,” Carlyle says. “What he thinks about that isn’t really clear until Episode 22, at the very end, where you realize what he’s actually up to. It’s another game-changer of an episode. Everything turns around in that moment
Bless loose lipped Bobby. But it’s this quote that gets me. It’s not until 22 that we will realize what Rumple has been doing which to me means all these times until 22 where it looks like Rumple has gone very Dark Side (“wars have costs” for instance) is really him doing something else. Like he’s got this plan that won’t become clear until 22 but until that moment, we will all think he’s being Dark and scary.
Unless Mr. Gold is plotting to somehow be rid of his curse, I’m still afraid that his plan is rather ominous, like when he said, “Wars have costs,” while looking directly at Henry. Yet, I agree, things could look up for Mr. Gold by the season’s end. “Everything turns around in that moment,” could be bad as in time turns around and Baelfire turns back into a kid again. Or it could be a positive outcome as in everything was headed on a collision course, but suddenly, Mr. Gold saves the day in a selfless act. Either way, it is going to forever change the father-son dynamic. I just fear Mr. Gold’s plan could result in irreparable damage between them.
Could Robert Carlyle have let it slip that every literally turns around in that moment? As in Rumple reverses time and turns back the clock in SB, like a ‘reset’ button.
But if he turns the clock back for all of SB, won’t that mean that everyone goes back 14 years? So we’re talking pre-curse, which means no Belle and for that matter no Emma so no Rumple, he’ll be Mr. Gold again. I don’t think Rumple wants that at all.
I didn’t mean Mr. Gold would turn back the clock 14 years. I meant he would try to turn Baelfire back into a 14-year-old kid, as he offered to do in Manhattan. I think the BF turns August back into a 7-year-old kid again in episode 2×18 without affecting the existence of Emma. Also, I think Mr. Gold must still really want to have his teenage son again, where Baelfire doesn’t remember anything about his dad letting him go and growing up alone. Yet, if Bae were a kid again, that might just affect the existence of Henry, since it’d be as if Emma never met Neal 10 years ago. Mr. Gold might be able to accomplish this without losing Belle, though losing her might just be the price he’d pay if the spell were cast successfully.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 16, 2013 at 4:07 pm #180325RumplesGirlKeymasterI think it comes down to “has Rumple learned anything at all?” in the 250+ years of all this. And for that I go back to the conversation he had with Nealfire in The Miller’s Daughter where he says “I’ve spent a life time looking for you for a chance to say that I love you and that I’m sorry.” And when Nealfire responds with “I never thought you’d go back on our deal” Rumple says “I just made the wrong choice.”
To me that says Rumple has learned something, that he can’t choose his power over his son and his family. I think he does want his son back, his 14 yr old son back. But Bae made it very clear he didn’t want to be 14 again and if Rumple doesn’t listen to that then he hasn’t learned anything and yeah, he would loose Belle. She said that she still sees good in him, that she’s always seen it, and I think Rumple wants to see it in himself.
SO….maybe this isn’t all a red herring like I proposed. Maybe he really is planning to do something terrible to Henry or turn back the clock on Bae. But at the last second, the two people he loves the most, Bae and Belle, talk him out of it. Manage to get him to see that he can’t behave this way. So they save Henry but even the attempt on Henry’s life is enough to separate father and son forever. Also, whatever he’s been planning to do to Henry has somehow threatened the existence of everyone in SB and they have to leave because somehow we’ve got to get the cast to Neverland.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 16, 2013 at 6:04 pm #180345Killian JonesParticipantI’ve been trying to think about what this game changer might be and I’m down to a few things
1. Rumple loses his magic and becomes normal
2. Belle gets pregnant 😮
3. Rumple sends Henry through a portal to Neverland.💡 Or how crazy would this be he reverses Bae’s age and sends himself and Bae through a portal to Neverland so he’d stay the same age and Rumple could have his son and they’d never age for all eternity!
March 16, 2013 at 6:08 pm #180346RumplesGirlKeymasterO_______________________O <----reaction to the second item on your list. 1) That’s one of my big suspicions. 2) Not likely. But again O____________________________O 3) And then he becomes the New Pan? Like his Papa? That would be interesting, but I don’t think he’ll go alone. I think someone’s got to go with him. EDIT: you edited your list while I was writing!!! hahahaha. Now no one will ever know why I was making this face: O_______________________O
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 16, 2013 at 6:11 pm #180347Killian JonesParticipantsorry I didn’t think anyone would see my post so fast it had a couple of drafts but I’ve finalized it now lol
March 16, 2013 at 6:20 pm #180349ser_dragonParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
O_______________________O <----reaction to the second item on your list.
EDIT: you edited your list while I was writing!!! hahahaha. Now no one will ever know why I was making this face: O_______________________OSo? What was that oh so choking second item uh?
March 18, 2013 at 10:10 pm #180758Killian JonesParticipantsee what I mean I thought I’d have a lot of time before somebody would check back here again lol
March 24, 2013 at 6:04 pm #181879emma-bae-henryParticipantSee this picture and just have to share 😀
Rumbae!! Father-son love that is so sweet and heartbreaking at the same time.March 26, 2013 at 3:36 am #182327CrownedWithLaurelsParticipantCheck out what PriceOfMagic posted in “Tamara…we all knew she was trouble!” Thread.
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Realistically, Tamara would not win against Rumple. He’s too powerful. The moment she gets her taser out, he would only have to freeze her like he taught Regina to do to the unicorn in the Doctor. What I could see happening is if Tamara tries to go for Rumple, Rumple would freeze her, then Bae would walk in and Tamara would play the helpless victim card. Bae would believe her because Rumple had a tendency to do horrible things to people such as snail guy.That would be soooo agonizingly sad but I wouldn’t put it past Tamara! Idk if it would be the game changer but we might see this sometime. Oh man. Agonizing!
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