Neverland

[Slurpeez]

After watching 2×4, The Crocodile, we know Captain Hook followed a magical bean, which opened an underwater vortex to Neverland. The title for 2×7 is Into the Deep, and I think it may refer to the crew’s journey to Neverland and what happened after Hook’s ship pulled into port there.

Maybe we’ll meet a certain mermaid. I could see the writers easily blending the mermaids of Neverland with The Little Mermaid fairy-tale.

Also, I wonder if Baelfire’s bean led him to Neverland, so that he became Peter Pan. If Bae finds out about his mother, Milha, running off with Killian, I could see that sparking the famous rivalry between Peter Pan and Hook. Peter might blame Hook for taking away his mother.

[ceege]

The bean took Bae to a land without magic. Neverland has magic, since it is populated with pixies that give people the power to fly. It is also magical, since people there do not age, according to Captain Hook.

Furthermore, Rumple told Belle he designed the curse to bring everyone to the land where Bae was.

[Slurpeez]

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Yes, Baelfire was supposed to journey to a land without magic and Rumple believes our world is the realm to which Baelfire was transported. However, there is a competing theory, which seeks to reconcile these facts with the Peter Pan theory. As I understand it, had Rumpel gone through the bean-portal with Baelfire, it would have transported them both to a land without magic (i.e. our world), where Rumpel’s curse wouldn’t affect him. However, since Rumpel chickened out of the deal he made with his son, Baelfire was instead transported to Neverland, where lost boys end up, and he became Peter Pan. Now that we know Hook used an enchanted legume to travel to Neverland, we know it’s at least possible for Baelfire also to have traveled there via his magical bean.

Also, since time stands still in Neverland, Baelfire may have lived for the 300+ years that Dark Rumpel was searching for a way to find his son. (That’s also why Hook has remained young). Since Peter Pan could fly using pixie dust, he may have found a way to our world. Eventually, he simply stayed in our world, where time exists and he started aging again. A lot of people think Baelfire is Henry’s dad, so it’s possible he decided to stay in our world, because he fell in love with Emma.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

The thing about the bean taking Bae to a land without magic is that we have to trust the BF on this point. I don’t. I think she knew that the words “a land without magic” would be the downfall for Rumple, he would never make that journey. So Bae could go where he is supposed to, Neverland where he fights Hook at some point. Wanna bet Rumple told young Bae that pirates had killed Milah? And then, after centuries of being in Neverland, for some reason he left (maybe he knew about the curse and left 28 years before it was enacted, the same time as Emma, but from a different land?) and ended up in New York. Perhaps the portal from Neverland leads to NY. And there he waited.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[TheGoldenKey]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

After watching 2×4, The Crocodile, we know Captain Hook followed a magical bean, which opened an underwater vortex to Neverland. The title for 2×7 is Into the Deep, and I think it may refer to the crew’s journey to Neverland and what happened after Hook’s ship pulled into port there.

Maybe we’ll meet a certain mermaid. I could see the writers easily blending the mermaids of Neverland with The Little Mermaid fairy-tale.

I think that fits in well with the story line. Would like to see the two paired together!

@slurpeez108 wrote:

Also, I wonder if Baelfire’s bean led him to Neverland, so that he became Peter Pan. If Bae finds out about his mother, Milha, running off with Killian, I could see that sparking the famous rivalry between Peter Pan and Hook. Peter might blame Hook for taking away his mother.

Yes, I believe that as well slurpeez and posted about it in another thread. As well, will Hook tell Bae about Rumple murderous his mother? That would add more layers of frustration, resentment and anger to the Bae & Rumple story.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

So Bae could go where he is supposed to, Neverland where he fights Hook at some point.

I like this idea. Maybe the bean took him to Neverland, not only because it’s where orphaned, lost boys go, but also because he had unfinished business with Hook that he was destined to address.

[hmverhagen]

My theory is that Into the Deep could be a reference to a PBS spiecal by the same name about the history of Whaling. We shall see…both make a heck of a lot of sense.

[antbee]

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

@slurpeez108 wrote:

After watching 2×4, The Crocodile, we know Captain Hook followed a magical bean, which opened an underwater vortex to Neverland. The title for 2×7 is Into the Deep, and I think it may refer to the crew’s journey to Neverland and what happened after Hook’s ship pulled into port there.

Maybe we’ll meet a certain mermaid. I could see the writers easily blending the mermaids of Neverland with The Little Mermaid fairy-tale.

I think that fits in well with the story line. Would like to see the two paired together!

Yes, before The Crocodile, I saw some theories out there that maybe they would pair up Hook and Ariel. I thought that was interesting idea since I read something here or in the chat about Hook concealing his identity in Peter Pan because he was a nobleman. So I thought it would be interesting if Killian Jones was just an alias, and he really was Prince Eric too because I think Colin O’Donoghue looks like he could be Prince Eric too, and it would be one way to redeem Hook if Ariel turned out to be his true love.

Then, they made Milah his true love, I guess, I’m not really sure. I’m assuming that they are. During the break when we were discussing who Milah might turn out to be since the only think we knew about her was that she was a bored housewife and mother, I thought that she could be Hook’s true love, then I changed my mind later on. I guess I was right, but it didn’t really live up to my expectations at all. While I could see Milah falling for Hook, (goodness knows I did), I don’t know why Hook would fall for Milah. Yes, she was beautiful, but I’m sure he could find plenty of women just as beautiful that don’t have such a horrific personality. I mean I felt bad for her because she obviously trapped in a marriage that it didn’t seem like she ever wanted to be in anyways, and she did try to get Rumple to meet her halfway. So I could see why she ran away, and why maybe she justified not telling Rumple and Bae the truth because it was kinder to have them think that she was kidnapped than her abandoning them. Her personality at the tavern though was just so awful that instead of being this strong woman that was trapped in a loveless marriage who always wanted to see the world that I could have seen Hook falling for, all I saw was a major rhymes with witch, and felt that Hook was out of his mind if Milah was supposed to be his true love. You could have done so much better Hook even if you are a bully. Now you look weaker to me than pre-Dark One Rumple. lol, the funny thing is that it seems like I hate Milah, but I really don’t because I totally get why she was the way she was. I just don’t understand why they had to make Hook and Milah true love.

@slurpeez108 wrote:

Also, I wonder if Baelfire’s bean led him to Neverland, so that he became Peter Pan. If Bae finds out about his mother, Milha, running off with Killian, I could see that sparking the famous rivalry between Peter Pan and Hook. Peter might blame Hook for taking away his mother.

Yes, I believe that as well slurpeez and posted about it in another thread. As well, will Hook tell Bae about Rumple murderous his mother? That would add more layers of frustration, resentment and anger to the Bae & Rumple story.[/quote]

Yes, I’m definitely concerned about who tells Bae about Rumple murdering Milah. I think that Rumple should just come clean with Bae even if it means Bae hates him forever, not that Bae doesn’t already have enough reasons to hate his father, but at least Rumple wouldn’t be a coward about it. It’s just going to be so much worse for Bae and in turn Rumple if it comes from someone else especially Hook.

[RumplesGirl]

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Yes, I’m definitely concerned about who tells Bae about Rumple murdering Milah. I think that Rumple should just come clean with Bae even if it means Bae hates him forever, not that Bae doesn’t already have enough reasons to hate his father, but at least Rumple wouldn’t be a coward about it. It’s just going to be so much worse for Bae and in turn Rumple if it comes from someone else especially Hook.

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I agree, he needs to tell Bae. If only because it keeps Rumple moving forward in character development. He finally admitted that he was a coward, something we’ve never seen him do before. He finally told Belle everything, even though he thought he had lost her. If he takes a step back now and doesn’t tell Bae about Milah/Hook/everything he’s done as the Dark One (including the curse and trying to find him) then I will be very very very disappointed in the writers who have done a great job thus far of taking the characters further in their development.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[zlfh4]

So just a thought, technically Pinocchio was a lost boy as well so maybe they both ended up in Neverland and that is when August tells Bae about the curse and they both decide to come back to the real world together and Peter decides to stay until the curse is broken because he knows his father will be looking for him there..

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