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[Phee]

I think perhaps the truth did come out that she had been a fraud. Otherwise, why weren’t Henry and Cora ruling as king and queen? Why did Cora need to get her daughter to be a queen, to fulfill her own failed ambitions? Up until these spoilers, had anyone suspected that Henry Sr was royalty? I hadn’t, which had confused me a bit, because the miller’s daughter was supposed to have married into royalty, and it didn’t look like she had. So I think that the truth came out somehow, and maybe Henry was demoted, so to speak, from his royal inheritance, or maybe Henry’s father’s kingdom ended up in ruin, so there was nothing for Henry and Cora to be king and queen of. Then Cora had to make all of those unspeakable deals to keep living in a manner she felt she deserved.

But whatever information came out, Cora never told anyone Rumple’s name, because she probably felt that by being the only one to know it, it gave her some power over him, which allowed her to make all those deals. Maybe she did find out about the dagger’s power at some point. Maybe that’s why Rumple set it up for her to be sent to Wonderland, because he was afraid of her getting her hands on it. But I think that if she’d had the dagger from the beginning and knew how powerful it was, there’s no way she’d have given it up. She’d have stabbed the bugger ASAP and taken the power for herself.

[RumplesGirl]

I think that’s a very valid point Phee. I think my current theory is that Rumple displaced Henry Sr and Cora after she refused to give Rumple baby Regina AND used the dagger to make Rumple teach her magic. Once Cora had her magic and her child she probably thought she could take Rumple but Rumple got one step ahead of her and somehow H and C lost their throne (my guess is to George). Thus, Cora would never have told Henry Sr about Rumple and the trick they played.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

One of my other theories, (there are many random ones floating around in my head 😆 ) is that Rumple had originally intended for Cora to be the one to enact his curse, and the “giving him her first born” thing was actually that Regina was originally intended as the Saviour, (have also thought that perhaps Regina was the “thing she loved most” that Cora had to sacrifice, but am now thinking maybe it was Henry Sr who was meant to be the sacrifice…which he eventually was anyway, the poor bugger), which would explain why Cora seemed to know a bit about the curse. If it proved true that he originally wanted Cora to enact the curse, then she wouldn’t have needed to wield the dagger to force Rumple into teaching her magic, he probably would have been keen to do it, like he was with Regina years later.

I could see Rumple having taken Henry’s father’s kingdom for himself and kicking the whole family out when his curse enaction plans fell through. He ended up living in a big old castle somehow.

[PriceofMagic]

I always wondered how Rumple went from his little cottage to the dark castle. Rumple’s castle also seems secluded rather than within a kingdom as such. Also why do some of the castles have names? For instance Rumple has “The dark castle” whilst Maleficent lives in “The forbidden fortress”.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[evilqueen]

Err, it’s more interesting that way? 😆 It’s just seems so fairy tale style, the villains stating their power in, among other things, giving their castles strong, scary names? Works for imagination!

[Josephine]

Hmmm….I love the thought that Rumple got Henry Sr.’s family’s kingdom as a result of Cora and their deal. Did anyone realize that the table in “Stable Boy” in Henry’s and Cora’s house is the same table that’s in Rumple’s castle in “Skin Deep”? Coincidence, a reason behind it, or just the prop department reusing things to save on money?

I’ve got the nugget that Rumple is Regina’s father in my head and I just can’t shake it out of there now.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

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