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I think it would have been better if Belle had been put under the sleeping curse against her will and then Rumple is forced to choose between Belle and his power rather than Belle giving him a kick in the teeth by doing it anyway when Rumple told her it was a bad idea and then insinuating that Rumple’s TLK wouldn’t be good enough since she asked for her father to kiss her awake. It’s like “Belle, your husband is stood right in front of you!”
I have a theory that the reason why Rumple and Belle are forced to be at odds with each other all the is because if the writers allowed the characters to dictate where the story was headed RumBelle’s problems would’ve been resolved at the end of season 3.
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Keeper of FelixIn Skin Deep, he let down his guard and was not clinging to the curse until he realized Belle could break it.
Belle explained why that was the last time it broke the curse to Hook in 502:
Hook: True Love’s Kiss. I need to know why it didn’t work for you and the bloody crocodile.
Belle: Why, it did work, the first time. It awoke the man behind the beast. But Rumple got scared of a life without power, and he chose power over love. He pulled away from me, and in that moment, the darkness forever regained its grip on him. You know, a curse isn’t a curse anymore when the afflicted wants it.
That’s the canonical according to GoogleBelle reason that TLK only has worked once between Belle and Rumple.
They’ve apparently added this layer that Rumple cannot break HER curse without breaking his own…which in my headcanon about what True Love actually means makes sense. Most of the TLK couples we’ve seen have been in a mutually sacrificial part of their relationship–willing to sacrifice for the other–and I think that’s important…so Rumple may HAVE to be willing to sacrifice his power for it to work. But I’m not sure that’s a necessary part of the kiss itself; I think it’s a necessary part for THEM because his clinging to power has been the chief thing between them since they were married.
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Rumple and the audience are assuming that he’ll lose all of his powers with True Love’s Kiss, but what if that isn’t necessarily the case? Another possibility is that instead of destroying the darkness and his powers, it converts the darkness into light. After all, we know that the Dark One’s power is sourced from the Holy Grail just like Merlin’s. It was not darkness originally, but became darkness once Nimue crushed Vortigan’s heart and tainted her magic. So maybe Rumple would become the Light One, as shown in Season 4’s finale, and this could even “cleave” him from the dagger. The Dark One willingly ready to lose his powers to save their loved one could be the ultimate test of selflessness.
Yeah, I’m kinda hoping for something similar to that…Rumple HAS to be willing to lose his powers to get to that point, but Rumple is a more fun character with power.
I do wonder though if his wanting the DO Curse and Belle’s wanting the sleeping curse in this case could interfere with TLK.
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I do wonder though if his wanting the DO Curse and Belle’s wanting the sleeping curse in this case could interfere with TLK.
In the first couple of seasons, we were told the sleeping curse could only take effect if the victim willingly took it eg Snow and the apple, Henry and the apple turnover, so Belle taking this sleeping curse willingly makes sense. However we saw Dorothy get put under unwillingly and Regina planned to put Emma under unknowingly so maybe Regina was lying to Snow when got her to bite the apple.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixRumple and the audience are assuming that he’ll lose all of his powers with True Love’s Kiss, but what if that isn’t necessarily the case? Another possibility is that instead of destroying the darkness and his powers, it converts the darkness into light. After all, we know that the Dark One’s power is sourced from the Holy Grail just like Merlin’s. It was not darkness originally, but became darkness once Nimue crushed Vortigan’s heart and tainted her magic. So maybe Rumple would become the Light One, as shown in Season 4’s finale, and this could even “cleave” him from the dagger. The Dark One willingly ready to lose his powers to save their loved one could be the ultimate test of selflessness.
I would’t mind this outcome, I think, so long as Rumple doesn’t revert to power-hunger/dagger loving in S6.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"However we saw Dorothy get put under unwillingly
Wasn’t Aurora put under unwillingly as well? Like, she didn’t do it in sacrifice like Snow.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Depends on which version of Aurora’s tale you believe, S2 or S4…
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Depends on which version of Aurora’s tale you believe, S2 or S4…
Right my questions are pointless and so is consistency.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I don’t really have time to review the epi, or weigh in too much right now, but here is a couple of thoughts.
First, just on the acting — we are back to our standard scenario where Bobby and EdR masterfully float an otherwise nonsensical, shoddy script.
You folks have already said a lot of what I was thinking. I thought this writing choice was terrible. It annulled a lot of the progress we’ve seen Rumbelle make in the last few episodes. And really, I understand the necessity of maternity leave, but this is not a good way to approach the problem, from the perspective of characterization.
Belle comes across as, in the best case scenario, incredibly naive verging on self-destructive (but this is a pattern with her: she’s more than willing to give a chance to Hook and Zelena, no matter how much abuse those two have rained upon her and her loved ones. Her hope that her father might be able to TLK her back to life, despite the fact that he has consistently put other interests — his kingdom, and his own personal sense of decorum — ahead of her own, seems to go hand in hand with this tendency to extent infinite credit to people who, by all accounts, don’t deserve it). And at worse, she comes across as a bit manipulative. My biggest issue though isn’t just what @RG mentioned, which is that it might appear that Belle is in fact, yet again, trying to force Rumple’s hand. Rather, it’s the underlying logic: that she is essentially putting herself under because, among other things, she doesn’t want to darken her soul further while getting herself and her child out of the current bind. Instead, she is outsourcing the weight of moral ambiguity to Rumple.
One might argue that Rumple’s already the Dark One, so what’s the harm — he chose his path, so he can take care of business. But to me, it felt OOC — Belle has always wanted to be a hero. Burying her hand in the sand while “things take care of themselves” (read, Rumple kills some more peasants to solve the current crisis) isn’t the moral high ground by any stretch of the imagination. It’s like the mobster’s wife who willfully ignores her husband’s dealings — but still wants to enjoy the wealth without getting her hands muddy, or sitting with the cognitive dissonance. Or, approaching the whole thing with eyes open and a good dose of sobriety, trying to mitigate the damage.
And if this is solely to protect the child, then this also feels like a crazy decision: why does she think that being under the sleeping curse will be essentially harmless to the fetus? Am I remembering wrong, or does her “soul” (or consciousness) get stuck in the Red Room of Fire? That doesn’t seem like a good place to spend your second trimester.
Anyway, point is, I think this is either OOC for Belle, or that Belle’s characterization as a “hero” just took a hit. At least for me.
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