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@RumplesGirl wrote:
It also sounds like Bae goes straight to FictionalLondon first and then NL. So the BF didn’t lie. I wonder if Neal and the BF will ever have a face to face. They were in the same scene in S/B and T but they didn’t interact.
Are we so sure that this version of London is fictional? Obviously, on the one hand, the setting is a fictionalized version of London, this being just a story. Yet, in the play, the setting was “real” London in so far as Peter Pan is supposed to have flown from NL to Earth — not some alternate dimension of Earth.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
It also sounds like Bae goes straight to FictionalLondon first and then NL. So the BF didn’t lie. I wonder if Neal and the BF will ever have a face to face. They were in the same scene in S/B and T but they didn’t interact.
Are we so sure that this version of London is fictional? Obviously, on the one hand, the setting is a fictionalized version of London, this being just a story. Yet, in the play, the setting was “real” London in so far as Peter Pan is supposed to have flown from NL to Earth — not some alternate dimension of Earth.
I keep calling it FictionalLondon but have no reason to. It’s probably London.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The only difference may be the time period. That would change one thing I think. If SB is NOT destroyed, and they want to return to it–then having these be the same place but different times would allow them to get back via pixie dust flight perhaps. They’d leave NL and fly to modern London, and have to fly back to Maine. We could see Rumpel go nuts again in the airport–or I bet Grumpy would be just as fun. I’m sort of thinking that “adjacent lands” might mean that some part of the world could connect to the other world but it isn’t like a portal, you can’t go from just any part of one world to another like with a bean.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Kitsis promised that “what happens with [Bae] and Wendy and the Darling family is the emotional touchstone of what these last two hours are,” but fans will also see the return of Mulan (Jamie Chung), Aurora (Sarah Bolger) and Philip (Julian Morris) before the season is out.
Still, the creators pointed out, since they like to add new twists to old stories, even familiar characters from Peter Pan’s world will have a “OUAT” flavor. For example, “The shadow is probably not the lovely cuddly shadow we remember. The way we look at Peter Pan and the way we look at Neverland will be a completely different take,” Kitsis said.
@Demileto wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
It also sounds like Bae goes straight to FictionalLondon first and then NL.
Do we even know that London’s intended to be a fictional version? Bae’s destination was meant to be The Land Without Magic, I’d think that’s supposed to be the real one.
If so, then they’d best explain why Nealfire told Emma that this world wasn’t his first stop. Just sayin’. The way they call it, “back in 19th century London” in the press release does make it sound like it’s London in our world. I’d be fine with that being the case, if not for what Nealfire told Emma, which is fast becoming a pet peeve for me. GAH!
BTW, I don’t really buy the, “It was like a different world back then,” explanation, because even if uneducated Bae wouldn’t make the connection that 19th century London and modern day America were in the same world, Nealfire’s had plenty of time to learn him some Earth history.
@Phee wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
It also sounds like Bae goes straight to FictionalLondon first and then NL.
Do we even know that London’s intended to be a fictional version? Bae’s destination was meant to be The Land Without Magic, I’d think that’s supposed to be the real one.
If so, then they’d best explain why Nealfire told Emma that this world wasn’t his first stop. Just sayin’. The way they call it, “back in 19th century London” in the press release does make it sound like it’s London in our world. I’d be fine with that being the case, if not for what Nealfire told Emma, which is fast becoming a pet peeve for me. GAH!
BTW, I don’t really buy the, “It was like a different world back then,” explanation, because even if uneducated Bae wouldn’t make the connection that 19th century London and modern day America were in the same world, Nealfire’s had plenty of time to learn him some Earth history.
To be fair, one’s bound to lose a few details when attempting to cram 150-200 years of your life in a single line that hopes to explain satisfactorially enough to someone how you knew another. 🙂
@Demileto wrote:
To be fair, one’s bound to lose a few details when attempting to cram 150-200 years of your life in a single line that hopes to explain satisfactorially enough to someone how you knew another. 🙂
But they could have easily had him say, “It’s a long story. Short version is this world isn’t the only one I stopped in when I left home,” instead of, “It’s a long story. Short version is this world wasn’t my first stop when I left home.” Only a couple of words different, but it alters the meaning. If they meant the former, they bloody well shoulda used the former. 😛
@Phee wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
To be fair, one’s bound to lose a few details when attempting to cram 150-200 years of your life in a single line that hopes to explain satisfactorially enough to someone how you knew another. 🙂
But they could have easily had him say, “It’s a long story. Short version is this world isn’t the only one I stopped in when I left home,” instead of, “It’s a long story. Short version is this world wasn’t my first stop when I left home.” Only a couple of words different, but it alters the meaning. If they meant the former, they bloody well shoulda used the former. 😛
Fair enough. 🙂
I do agree that if London was his first stop then they need to be more careful with their wording. So if he was somewhere before London he was there a really short period of time. Is there any chance it was the room of doors? I know it only take people to lands with magic and the bean was supposed to take Bae to a land without magic but I have to question if any land is truly without magic. As we’ve seen The Land Without Color does have magic but it’s feeble neglected stuff. And our world does have magical creatures in it, even pre-Curse, such as the Dragon. So if it took him to the room of doors, maybe he chose London and the Door world was his first stop.
Stretching?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The book of Peter Pan was written in 1902, the the story itself was set much earlier in London. Like early 1800s? And we know that Bae falling into the portal took place centuries before the FT we know, so if time is linear, then yes, he would have landed in our world roughly during the time of Peter Pan. And probably went/found a way to get to Neverland, stay there for awhile and then jump back to our world at some point and grow up to be Neal Cassady.
Maybe because he feared his father maybe coming close to finding him, so he jumped again.
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