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March 14, 2016 at 11:51 am #319014RainbowParticipant
It appeared like a white light, just as it did for Regina’s father, but then you could see Olympus in the background.
No, read the above TV Line article.
The Underworld is kind of a weigh station between two other worlds. Hades has a brother that’s up in Mount Olympus, and then there’s a place “downstairs” that’s even worse.
The Underworld is the in-between Limbo. You can go “downstairs” (the worse place) or you can go “upstairs” (the Better place) and that’s Olympus. Olympus is their heaven, no matter what culture you’re from.
Yeah, and they probably only showed that to viewers, bc most likely they will show more about Olympus later, and this way people would associate without having to explain what is that place. For example, @Slurp posted pics from fans that visited the set and some said was for episode 521, that is the same episode that many here say may have Zeus as prince Marcus, and since the pics have greek writting and looks a door in a mount, will be shown later on
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March 14, 2016 at 11:54 am #319016RumplesGirlKeymasterThe reason why they showed it to the audience this episode and not last week was because Olympus wasn’t introduced last week. The light was too bright for us to see Olympus because Olympus doesn’t mean anything in the Henry Sr/Regina story. But add in Hercules, who spoke at some length about Olympus, and suddenly the light fades enough so that the audience can be “let in” on the secret: the better place, upstairs, where souls go when they finish their business is Olympus.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 14, 2016 at 12:59 pm #319021TheWatcherParticipantSo Hellbroke is essentially the Asphodel Fields, or whatever its called. Thats a thing, right?
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICMarch 14, 2016 at 1:09 pm #319024RumplesGirlKeymasterSo Hellbroke is essentially the Asphodel Fields, or whatever its called. Thats a thing, right?
It is a thing, but I wouldn’t call Hellbrooke that either. Asphodel is just where ordinary souls go when they die. Those average Joe’s and Jane’s who didn’t lead extraordinary lives of heroism but weren’t evil either. There’s no “moving on” or unfinished business there. It’s not Limbo while you wait out a sentence of punishment before moving on to the worst place (like Tartarus) or the better place (Elysium).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 14, 2016 at 1:32 pm #319026MatthewPaulModeratorI have to wonder if we’ll get a name for “the worst place” at some point, too. Would they call it “Tartarus” like in the Greek myths, or will they straight up call it “Hell”?
March 14, 2016 at 5:20 pm #319082WickedRegalParticipantI have to wonder if we’ll get a name for “the worst place” at some point, too. Would they call it “Tartarus” like in the Greek myths, or will they straight up call it “Hell”?
Based on all of the talks about Hell on this show lately, I think they’ll just call it Hell. Hades will probably make a joke about it at some point, like “Tartarus is so first century, we call it Hell now.”
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March 15, 2016 at 1:25 pm #319161SlurpeezParticipantWe’ve heard mention of the gods since season one. Does anyone else think that the gods in question are indeed the gods of Ancient Greece? It would seem so to me, especially with this half season’s arc of Hades being god of the UW and his brother Zeus being head god of Mount Olympus.
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March 15, 2016 at 2:10 pm #319163MatthewPaulModeratorWe’ve heard mention of the gods since season one. Does anyone else think that the gods in question are indeed the gods of Ancient Greece? It would seem so to me, especially with this half season’s arc of Hades being god of the UW and his brother Zeus being head god of Mount Olympus.
Merlin and his friend also mentioned “Gods”, when they found the Holy Grail.
Man: That’s a gift from the Gods.
Merlin: We are hardly worth notice of the Gods.
Man: The Gods could do worse. But if you don’t want any…
Notice how the didn’t say “God”, but the plural “Gods.” If by chance they were to further explain the Holy Grail, I could see the twist being that the Grail is connected to the Greek God Dionysus rather than Jesus. There have been many comparisons between Jesus and Dionysus, with the connection to wine being one of them. Here’s an example of this from Wikipedia:
Parallels have been drawn between Greek myths and the life of Jesus. An early example was Friedrich Hölderlin, who in his Brot und Wein (1800–1801) suggested similarities between the Greek god Dionysus and Jesus.
Modern scholars such as Martin Hengel, Barry Powell, and Peter Wick, among others, argue that Dionysian religion and Christianity have notable parallels. They point to the symbolism of wine and the importance it held in the mythology surrounding both Dionysus and Jesus Christ; although, Wick argues that the use of wine symbolism in the Gospel of John, including the story of the Marriage at Cana at which Jesus turns water into wine, was intended to show Jesus as superior to Dionysus.
Additionally, some scholars of comparative mythology argue that both Dionysus and Jesus represent the “dying-and-returning god” mythological archetype. Other parallels, such as the celebration by a ritual meal of bread and wine, have also been suggested and Powell, in particular, argues that precursors to the Christian notion of transubstantiation can be found in Dionysian religion. Another parallel has been drawn to how in the Bacchae Dionysus appears before King Pentheus on charges of claiming divinity and is compared to the New Testament scene of Jesus being interrogated by Pontius Pilate.
E. Kessler has argued that the Dionysian cult developed into strict monotheism by the 4th century CE; and together with Mithraism and other sects the cult formed an instance of “pagan monotheism” in direct competition with Early Christianity during Late Antiquity.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_comparative_mythology#Greco-Roman_mysteries
Not that I seriously expect OUAT to explore this, but I guess it is food for though regardless.
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