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February 14, 2016 at 8:49 pm #316768MatthewPaulModerator
He was such a great guest star–one thing I really loved about S1. They knew how to utilize the guest stars really well. They felt natural because so much of S1 was learning about the town. Jefferson, Granny, Ruby, Ashley, even one offs like Nova.
That raises a good point about Season 1. They knew how to balance the guest stars, while maintaining the main focus on the central characters. I didn’t feel like we got too little of the guest stars either. There was just enough to make it satisfying. One problem with the other Seasons is that the guest stars sometimes dominate the storylines (*coughFrozencough*), while taking character development away from the regulars. The other problem is that the guest stars themselves are sometimes underdeveloped. Either way, some characters lose out.
[adrotate group="5"]February 14, 2016 at 8:59 pm #316769MatthewPaulModeratorSomething that really didn’t work was the original relationship between Henry and Regina. Even though I understand what they were trying to do what with her being the villain and all, it sent out an anti-adoption message, which was an issue many people had with OUAT in the beginning. Like I said, I know what they were trying to do, but I just wish they did it in a more careful manner…Henry constantly bashing and telling the woman who did her best in raising, loving, and caring for him his whole life that he found his “real mother” was a problem which I’m glad Lana Parrilla stood up and called the producers out on, and had them fix. I am forever happy that she stood up for Regina and Henry’s relationship and had it mended, because just because Emma stuck around and got to know Henry for a few months did not all of a sudden make her the perfect “real mother.” That is the one thing I certainly do not miss from Season 1!
That’s a good point. I certainly remember Adam’s Twitter feed dealing with claims that the show was anti-adoption, and him feeling the need to claim otherwise. I also recall Lana saying that she had to push for some of Regina’s storyline, regarding her relationship with Henry. But yeah, even back in Season 1, some morality concerns were brought up. Another thing the show got flack for back then was how Regina technically raped Graham, since she was controlling his heart and they clearly had sex several times.
February 14, 2016 at 9:12 pm #316770RumplesGirlKeymasterOne problem with the other Seasons is that the guest stars sometimes dominate the storylines (*coughFrozencough*), while taking character development away from the regulars.
Not only did the guest stars not over shadow the main crew, but they actually really enhanced the main cast. Like Ashely, her story tied to Rumple’s but her emotional storyline ended up being *very* in line with Emma and who Emma was as a character: A single unwed mother who was in danger of being told who she was, it worked so well because at the same time we were hearing (from Emma) about her life in the car, giving up Henry, the allusion to Tallahassee, and it was the first time she wore her Swan necklace
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm #316771WickedRegalParticipantBut yeah, even back in Season 1, some morality concerns were brought up. Another thing the show got flack for back then was how Regina technically raped Graham, since she was controlling his heart and they clearly had sex several times.Isn’t it ironic that her soul mate ended up getting raped by Zelena, who also ended up pregnant by said soul mate. Talk about karma at it’s absolute worst….what a way Regina had to pay for that old sin of hers. Though I wish we could still get a one on one scene between Graham and Regina in Season 5 Underworld, it probably wouldn’t go so well, but a confrontation is a confrontation.
He was such a great guest star–one thing I really loved about S1. They knew how to utilize the guest stars really well. They felt natural because so much of S1 was learning about the town. Jefferson, Granny, Ruby, Ashley, even one offs like Nova.
That raises a good point about Season 1. They knew how to balance the guest stars, while maintaining the main focus on the central characters. I didn’t feel like we got too little of the guest stars either. There was just enough to make it satisfying. One problem with the other Seasons is that the guest stars sometimes dominate the storylines (*coughFrozencough*), while taking character development away from the regulars. The other problem is that the guest stars themselves are sometimes underdeveloped. Either way, some characters lose out.
This! Instead of bringing something for our core cast to learn from, these guest stars are just taking over the whole show!
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February 15, 2016 at 9:59 am #316779thedarkonedearieParticipantSeason 1….ahhh a lovely place in my heart
Favorite episode: I truly cannot pick 1. It is a tie with a few. Pilot, Skin Deep, Hat Trick, A Land Without Magic.
Favorite character introduced: Rumple, Jefferson
Favorite moment: When Emma remembers and goes after Regina in the finale, When Emma wakes Henry up with true love’s kiss in the finale, Charming fighting Regina’s henchman while holding baby Emma in the pilot, Graham getting his heart crushed in the heart is a lonely hunter.
February 16, 2016 at 7:51 am #316847RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat about most shocking moment? It could be a good shock, a bad shock, so long as it’s something that made you gasp….
I think mine is Regina killing Graham. I did not expect Regina to have her all those hearts in a vault nor did I expect that she could crush hearts and kill people. The fact that Graham dies seconds after he remembers who he is and in Emma’s arms….so tragically sad. I remember gasping.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 16, 2016 at 10:48 am #316853thedarkonedearieParticipantWhat about most shocking moment? It could be a good shock, a bad shock, so long as it’s something that made you gasp…. I think mine is Regina killing Graham. I did not expect Regina to have her all those hearts in a vault nor did I expect that she could crush hearts and kill people. The fact that Graham dies seconds after he remembers who he is and in Emma’s arms….so tragically sad. I remember gasping.
Yeah that was pretty shocking. Seeing Katherine in the back alley all bruised up and what not was rather shocking too if I recall.
February 16, 2016 at 1:58 pm #316871MatthewPaulModeratorWhat about most shocking moment? It could be a good shock, a bad shock, so long as it’s something that made you gasp….
I think mine is Regina killing Graham. I did not expect Regina to have her all those hearts in a vault nor did I expect that she could crush hearts and kill people. The fact that Graham dies seconds after he remembers who he is and in Emma’s arms….so tragically sad. I remember gasping.
That’s certainly up there for me. That was also really the first time that we got genuine proof in present day Storybrooke that what Henry had been saying about the curse was true. I mean yeah the audience was led to believe it all along, but when you really think about it, the only possible evidence prior to that episode was Henry’s book and the flashbacks. Seeing Regina enter her secret vault to crush Graham’s heart made it 100% certain. The curse was real!
Another shocking moment to bring up is when we see that Belle is in the asylum in Storybrooke, when we were told in the flashback that she was dead. I think I always had it in the back of my mind that Regina was a liar, and that Belle was still alive. However, seeing her in that asylum at the end of the episode was still a shocking moment for me.
A lesser brought up shocking moment that I think is worth bringing up, is when it’s revealed at the end of “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree” that Sidney was still loyal to Regina, and was playing Emma. The episode honestly made me buy Sidney’s deceit. He had compelling reasons to make us believe that he had a score to settle with Regina, and the flashback further made us sympathize with him.
However, the number one shocking moment for me was when Rumple dropped the egg into the well, and explained to Belle that he was bringing magic to Storybrooke. The curse breaking itself wasn’t so shocking for me, perhaps because I saw it coming and I was aware of some spoilers. Rumple bringing magic over, though, I didn’t expect. I still remember the chills I got watching the purple smoke engulf the streets of Storybrooke, and then making us wait all Summer for Season 2 to pick up where that scene left off.
February 16, 2016 at 7:06 pm #316901RumplesGirlKeymasterthe audience was led to believe it all along, but when you really think about it, the only possible evidence prior to that episode was Henry’s book and the flashbacks
If we never had flashbacks, I almost wonder if I would have believed any of it. That might be an interesting experiment: if you had the same show, but no flashbacks, just present day. Would you believe?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 16, 2016 at 11:51 pm #316947MatthewPaulModeratorIf we never had flashbacks, I almost wonder if I would have believed any of it. That might be an interesting experiment: if you had the same show, but no flashbacks, just present day. Would you believe?
It would have been a completely different show, and I think we needed the flashbacks in order to give us all of these backstories. I’ll admit the concept of playing around with “Is the curse real or not?” is intriguing, nonetheless. I think I would have believed, though, because I couldn’t help but think that was the show’s intention. Besides, Storybrooke is still a strange town.
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